Does instant transportation effect game immersion?

[Jaber]

what you call "purposeless delays" i call "immersion", which last i checked was a huge mechanic in gameplay.

I'll tell you what, I'll go make a game where you win by fighting enemies and getting gear, and you go make a game where you win by idling on an airship with a scrolling background for ten minutes then holding W for the next halfhour, and we'll go see which is more popular.

I'm all for immersion. It's one of the main reasons I play games; to escape to a different world and different life. Idling on a boat and excessive travel times are not going to immerse me, they're going to do the exact opposite by causing me to instead spend that time playing MHP3 on my PSP. I don't want to spend my time in another world waiting. I can do that in this one, and it won't cost me twelve bucks a month to do it.

[Rhomagus]

Seriously Az. Please. You aren't even comparing apples and oranges anymore. You're comparing apples and whatever you want to say that people are talking about.

[Pulseczar]

Seriously Az. Please. You aren't even comparing apples and oranges anymore. You're comparing apples and whatever you want to say that people are talking about.

Welcome to most of Azury's posts. They've become comedic, free entertainment.

[Bled]

Final Fantasy 14 has very little immersion, and as much as id love to explain things to you all writing a wall of text does not seem enjoyable at this point for people who seem to be stone walling.

Here is the link to an article that pretty much sums up the problems of FF14: http://www.psychologyofgames.com/201...n-video-games/

[Jaber]

Oh what's this
It's "Desktop Dungeons", a game based entirely around fighting enemies and getting stronger, and with very short playtimes to boot!

Your turn, show me a game based entirely around being immersed in idling, where players look forward to the dread of doing anything because of the massive amount of time it takes just to start!

Of course, if that's your thing, there's nothing stopping you from enjoying that experience!
Unless for some reason that joy comes from forcing that experience on other people rather than from the experience itself.

[Bled]

Oh what's this
It's "Desktop Dungeons", a game based entirely around fighting enemies and getting stronger, and with very short playtimes to boot!

Your turn, show me a game based entirely around being immersed in idling, where players look forward to the dread of doing anything because of the massive amount of time it takes just to start!

Of course, if that's your thing, there's nothing stopping you from enjoying that experience!
Unless for some reason that joy comes from forcing that experience on other people rather than from the experience itself.

Can you read? I ask because if you read my above post you would realize how much you just embarrassed yourself.

Popular games that focus on immersion, in their mechanics: Call of Duty's, Gears of War, majority of Final Fantasy, Lost odesy, FIFA, and NHL, all of these games use immersing their customers into a second reality where the person can visualized themselves there. Standing on an airship between cities is just a small part of the over all mechanic of immersion. If you don't like that then fine but don't get on your soap box and scream that all immersion is idle standing.

Now get out of that one track/over exaggerating mind set and maybe you can see that there can be more to a game then PEW PEW PEW.

[Jaber]

Can you read? I ask because if you read my above post you would realize how much you just embarrassed yourself.

Popular games that focus on immersion, in their mechanics: Call of Duty's, Gears of War, majority of Final Fantasy, Lost odesy, FIFA, and NHL, all of these games use immersing their customers into a second reality where the person can visualized themselves there. Standing on an airship between cities is just a small part of the over all mechanic of immersion. If you don't like that then fine but don't get on your soap box and scream that all immersion is idle standing.

Now get out of that one track/over exaggerating mind set and maybe you can see that there can be more to a game then PEW PEW PEW.

You sir are confusing immersion with waiting.
The immersion in call of duty is not done by forcing you to sit in the back of a plane for fifteen minutes while you fly to a dropzone. The immersion in FIFA is not done by having the player wait in a locker room for half an hour while all the fans pour into the stadium(or at all, now that I think on it, since sports games are most always presented in a manner similar to watching a game on TV).
Likewise, the immersion in FFXIV does not benefit from excessive travel times or waiting on an airship, though it does simulate that experience quite well in that I'll end up playing a handheld game whether I'm waiting on an airship in-game or waiting on a plane in real life.

[Bled]

You sir are confusing immersion with waiting.
The immersion in call of duty is not done by forcing you to sit in the back of a plane for fifteen minutes while you fly to a dropzone. The immersion in FIFA is not done by having the player wait in a locker room for half an hour while all the fans pour into the stadium.
Likewise, the immersion in FFXIV does not benefit from excessive travel times or waiting on an airship, though it does simulate that experience quite well in that I'll end up playing a handheld game whether I'm waiting on an airship in-game or waiting on a plane in real life.

you are confusing what you don't enjoy in a game with what immersion is actually defined as and used for. at some points in life standing and looking out at a scenic view, or waiting for a trip to end is part of a immersive factor. Again i would like to emphasize standing still is not all that immersion is but rather 1/10000000 of a part of immersion, as NPC's actually moving around a city would be another 1/10000000 of immersion. Slowing down is not naturally a bad thing in a game, but this new emerging mind set believes that gear scores, and raid running is the only appropriate mechanic of a game; so hey if that's what gets you off i suggest looking outside of the final fantasy franchise.

[Jaber]

you are confusing what you don't enjoy in a game with what immersion is actually defined as and used for. at some points in life standing and looking out at a scenic view, or waiting for a trip to end is part of a immersive factor. Again i would like to emphasize standing still is not all that immersion is but rather 1/10000000 of a part of immersion as NPC actually moving around a city would be another 1/10000000 of immersion. Slowing down is not naturally a bad thing in a game, but this new emerging mind set believes that gear scores, and raid running is the only appropriate mechanic of a game so hey if that what you enjoy i suggest looking outside of the final fantasy franchise.

Which is why I asked you for examples of games that are popular because people enjoy having to wait without having the option to do otherwise. I don't understand why you cannot enjoy your waiting while other people have the option of not waiting if they so choose(since it's pretty obvious from all the topics that it's quite a divided issue).
Because you won't have anyone to wait with? If it was something everyone enjoyed, why wouldn't there be anyone to wait with? If it's forced, the people who don't enjoy it are just going to be AFK, and you end up no better off while they end up inconvenienced.