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  1. #1131
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    Leather Grimoire NQ for 11 MD
    http://xivdb.com/?item/2143/Leather-Grimoire

    Baldur Grimoire for 89
    http://xivdb.com/?item/11374/Baldur-Grimoire

    I'll start the base CRT test now. Do the other stats matter when doing the CRT tests?

    EDIT: And do you need both pets or just one?
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 03:19 PM.

  2. #1132
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    Nah other stats don't matter, as I'm only verifying the Crit Rate. I've seen some odd posts here about Pet Crit Rate which don't make sense, considering Crit Damage scales similarly to us players.

    Also, your AA test on Ifrit with 89 MD is interacting really funny with my solver. Once I removed it, my variance of errors dropped Dramatically from 5.8 to 0.100 (which is a huge drop), so there's definitely an error in the recorded AAs.

    As for how AA's ifrit works. It scales off your Weapons Physical Damage, which is why I wanted to know the weapons. Ifrit scales WD and DET slightly better, but scales INT 1/3 less than a Summoner.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 03:30 PM.

  3. #1133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Also, your AA test on Ifrit with 89 MD is interacting really funny with my solver. Once I removed it, my variance of errors dropped Dramatically from 5.8 to 0.100 (which is a huge drop), so there's definitely an error in the recorded AAs.
    Really weird... I wonder if I goofed there somewhere. 354 CRT going up in a sec.

    EDIT: 354 CRT up. Doing a 411 then I need to hit the bed. Will finish tomorrow early if someone doesn't before me!
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 03:47 PM.

  4. #1134
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    What a mess.

    Garuda scales off Magic Damage, Ifrit scales off Physical Damage. Even though Ifrit uses a Weapons Physical Damage for both Auto-Attacks and Action Skills, it stills scales off Intelligence, not Strength. lol.

    But, your AA's as a Summoner scales via Strength...
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 04:16 PM.

  5. #1135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    What a mess.

    Garuda scales off Magic Damage, Ifrit scales off Physical Damage. Even though Ifrit uses a Weapons Physical Damage for both Auto-Attacks and Action Skills, it stills scales off Intelligence, not Strength. lol.
    Every time you say stuff like this I laugh because I can't imagine how bad it must suck. 411 CRT up.

    Doing 508 now because who needs sleep!
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 04:21 PM.

  6. #1136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charybdis View Post
    Every time you say stuff like this I laugh because I can't imagine how bad it must suck. 411 CRT up.

    Doing 508 now because who needs sleep!
    Half Lala half machine!

    Also - they nerfed pets in 3.0. In 2.0, it was basically as if the pet was an extension of the caster. Garuda using Wind Blade was stronger than Ruin, and did the exact same damage as if you had a 100 potency spell.

    But they nerfed SCH and SMN pets and now they are some lesser version of the caster, or have their own unique stats. Ruin's 80 potency hits harder than the 100 potency Wind Blade.
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  7. #1137
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    The pets liveeeeeeeeeee





    Still need to sort bits and bobs out, but, I have a Ifrit/Garuda, Auto-Attacks and Battle Litany toggles. Need to sort out pesky Crit Data, but yeah... The model works, at least. The weights aren't concrete either.

    EDIT: This is only the actual stat-weight calculator portion of the Summoner model, not the whole thing.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 04:45 PM.

  8. #1138
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    Just finished 508 CRT. Going to bed, frustrated. No idea how that percentage happened with that rating. RNG is RNG?
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  9. #1139
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    I think, to get a rather "accurate" swing of data for Crits, you need over 1000 total strikes. Don't worry about it too much. Take your time with it.
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  10. #1140
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    I was just going off the 25 minute rule. Seemed accurate for the prior two sets. I'll do 1000 swings tomorrow. That'd be an hour or more on swings. Updates tomorrow!
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