Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

I pretty much discovered it cause I just wanted to see slug shot's animation by just mashing it on the dummy. Neat that you can take advantage of this with ammo, still don't like it though.

You could actually technically get higher Wildfire numbers by replacing our standard opener to capitalize on this. Shifting all the weaponskills one step forward in the cycle.

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

Gives you 3 Clean Shots in a Wildfire, which is 20 more potency in the Wildfire at the cost of 40 less potency outside it, due to that first Slug Shot only hitting for 100 vs a 140'd Split Shot.

Not really worth it at all, but a nice gimmick.

[Greywolfamakir]

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

I used to use second way, I mean:

Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

But the last Clean is out of Wildfire, maybe EU lag, I don't know, but I'm using Rapid Fire after the first Clean getting 2 Splits with no casts, and just 1 oGCD between weaponskills. (after the last Slug, I use Quick Reload for 100% Clean.)

[Ryaz]

You could actually technically get higher Wildfire numbers by replacing our standard opener to capitalize on this. Shifting all the weaponskills one step forward in the cycle.

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

Gives you 3 Clean Shots in a Wildfire, which is 20 more potency in the Wildfire at the cost of 40 less potency outside it, due to that first Slug Shot only hitting for 100 vs a 140'd Split Shot.

Not really worth it at all, but a nice gimmick.

Most of the Wildfire rotations I've seen don't use it until after the first Split Shot, which is what I've been doing.

[Myon88]

Yeah that's what I mean, Wildfire placement doesn't really change - you normally put it in after the first Split Shot which, in the case of the first opener, gives you 2 Split, 3 Slug, and 2 Clean Shots inside the Wildfire.

You can do the same thing with the second one except it goes after the Slug Shot, and you're now getting 2 Split, 2 Slug, and 3 Clean Shots inside the Wildfire.

Split (Wildfire), Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
Slug (Wildfire), Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

I probably should have included the notation to show where Wildfire went.

Overall it's still a net loss due to the massive potency deficit of starting off with a non-proc'd Slug Shot, but it's an interesting curiosity.

[Greywolfamakir]

You can do the same thing with the second one except it goes after the Slug Shot, and you're now getting 2 Split, 2 Slug, and 3 Clean Shots inside the Wildfire.

I think is not possible to get 3 Clean Shots inside wildfire playing in EU currently.

[Griffeth]

I think is not possible to get 3 Clean Shots inside wildfire playing in EU currently.

Do you use WTFast or Pingzapper? I know it helps greatly for consistent use of oGCD abilities but was not sure how much it would help our EU friends.

[Judge_Xero]

Had some time today to retest the Turret attack frequency while changing the Skill Speed stat. Since I wanted to see the difference over a longer period than a couple minutes.

2.64 Weapon Delay - 354 SPD
10 Minutes (600 seconds)
186 Hits
2.48 Weapon Delay - 720 SPD
10 Minutes (600 seconds)
186 Hits

Unless the effect is even lower than what SMN pets benefit, I don't think Turret is effected at all by SPD.

[Lavieh]

Had some time today to retest the Turret attack frequency while changing the Skill Speed stat. Since I wanted to see the difference over a longer period than a couple minutes.

2.64 Weapon Delay - 354 SPD
10 Minutes (600 seconds)
186 Hits
2.48 Weapon Delay - 720 SPD
10 Minutes (600 seconds)
186 Hits

Unless the effect is even lower than what SMN pets benefit, I don't think Turret is effected at all by SPD.

Seems to be the case. I would assume this would be SKS at around the .7 - .8 Point for stats, but we will see once Dervy finishes compiling his information.

SMN and MCH seem like the worst to get data for.

[Ephier]

Seems I do not need to do the 20 min version then. \o/

[Seezur_Undies]

a(wildfire)>clean shot>(GR+head graze)>split shit (quick reload+split shot procced)>slug shot (rapid fire+blank)>split shot>clean shot>split shot etc

1st: What is a "Split Shit" and why don't i have one (couldn't resist)
2nd: And a more on topic question, anyone have a crossbar layout they can share?