How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[DestinovaTrueblade]

MNK > DRG > NIN.

That's fair I suppose, since utility wise the order is the opposite.

[Jonnycbad]

How far below MNK are we? I guess it also makes sense, given DRG has a bit higher survivability and mobility

[Dervy]

Uhmm like 0.015% difference between the two jobs on a Dummy.

At i195:

My Static Monk: 1330
My Dragoon: 1310

[Ninjah2r]

Uhmm like 0.015% difference between the two jobs on a Dummy.

At i195:

My Static Monk: 1330
My Dragoon: 1310

Isn't there anything that we can do as drg's?

My static monk was doing better than me in fights (with mechanics to keep up his dps) in comparison to me. I only outdps him on the dummy.

But I mean, it's kinda annoying me and demotivating me when I see my own dps, it's not that I'm the worst at drg but also not #1 :c

[Sleigh]

Isn't there anything that we can do as drg's?

My static monk was doing better than me in fights (with mechanics to keep up his dps) in comparison to me. I only outdps him on the dummy.

But I mean, it's kinda annoying me and demotivating me when I see my own dps, it's not that I'm the worst at drg but also not #1 :c

Why would that bother you? You bring Litany and Disembowel to the table on top of high DPS, the MNK is bringing ... well, nothing extra DPS wise besides his raw numbers.

[Ninjah2r]

Why would that bother you? You bring Litany and Disembowel to the table on top of high DPS, the MNK is bringing ... well, nothing extra DPS wise besides his raw numbers.

I think it's my negative side then lol, I get competitive very easily. And I want to play my job as perfect as I can. And I always try to do that (thanks to all the help from Dervy's vids and the info here/on reddit)

[spelley]

Isn't there anything that we can do as drg's?

My static monk was doing better than me in fights (with mechanics to keep up his dps) in comparison to me. I only outdps him on the dummy.

But I mean, it's kinda annoying me and demotivating me when I see my own dps, it's not that I'm the worst at drg but also not #1 :c

MNKs used to be top DPS and had good raid utility while DRG did 2nd?/3rd? melee DPS and basically no raid utility (-piercing debuff for the much-weaker-at-the-time BRD). In Heavensward's raid environment, they had second-best DPS and barely ANY raid utility while DRGs had top DPS and probably best offensive raid utility. Now MNK is top DPS with little utility and DRG is a very close second and still have awesome raid utility. This seems fair enough to me.

Think of it this way: Your Battle Litany and Piercing Debuff probably more than makes up the direct DPS difference between you and the MNK. It's a team game!

I think it's my negative side then lol, I get competitive very easily. And I want to play my job as perfect as I can. And I always try to do that (thanks to all the help from Dervy's vids and the info here/on reddit)

MNK (most likely) has a higher PERSONAL DPS ceiling compared to DRG, so if both players are playing perfectly, the MNK (should) be ahead.

[Ilyanat]

I'm pretty competitive as well, have to try not to drag other people down with me at times hahaha. I'm fine with monks being higher though, they're a good rival to have and together we can put out some outstanding damage. Plus it seems like their class is a little bit more of a headache but I'm not too sure.

[Dervy]

My monk has been doing more DPS than myself even before the changes. They were always better for raids. It's just they bring no utility for DPS checks unlike a Ninjas TA and Battle Litany.

[Neyka]

Also, monks now being the top dps class (although just slightly above us) takes a bit of the target off our heads.

It's actually kind of impressive how just about every dps is viable from a raiding standpoint, although some classes still have QoL issues, and ninjas probably need a minor tp adjustment. Though it would be cool if goad gave some TP back to the ninja along with the goad target.