"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[KingOfAbyss]

It's funny but awesomely hilarious how offended people get over what's basically a non issue. If you're getting this a lot, maybe you should play your role better? Nah, easier to just whine on the forums.

Maybe it's me but I'm trying to follow your thoughts here.

It has nothing to do with any abilities, cause even before we can start a trial or dungeon, people ask to kick them out o.O

On topic:

Can't say much on my side since I'm mainly the Tank, and.. no matter what the game throw at me, I'll do my best until the end.

I've got some of the best time playing this game when, where everyone thinks we'll be doomed, 9 Mins left on the timer, we give it one last shot.. and.. we SUCCEED!

That is what gives the thrill of the battle, and to enjoy a good time, with people from all over the world.

Now if some starts to behave like kiddies, and begins to swear/abuse/whatever, there is a report button.

As some have stated here: Time management. You know a Dungeon "can" last 90 mins, so you should have time set for it.

You have real-life issues? Well then, leave by yourself, cause you won't be in front of your computer for 30min because of.. "REAL" life issues anyway.

And in my case, since I'm tank and my GF will soon join forces as Healer.. to replenish a DPS, fair enough, it shouldn't be long.

Let's all Grow up; it's only a dungeon, we'll get our rewards and duty done, like a team all over the world.

Come on guys, let's enjoy this game! (ok except the stupid side quests, now I hate moogles >.< )

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I'm just trying to wrap my head around these complaints. Supposedly this has been happening for a while, yet in over a year of playing this game and pretty much spamming dungeons and trials, I have never once had this happen, so naturally there's gotta be something else people aren't bringing up. I haven't even got these requests during SoF when it required a group to be awake.

[Gralna]

I'm just trying to wrap my head around these complaints. Supposedly this has been happening for a while, yet in over a year of playing this game and pretty much spamming dungeons and trials, I have never once had this happen, so naturally there's gotta be something else people aren't bringing up. I haven't even got these requests during SoF when it required a group to be awake.

Fairly easy, a small portion of the community feels entitled to only have to run what they want to, and they'll resort to forced DC'ing, AFK, or outright asking for a kick before even the first pull is made, just so they don't have to run a duty they don't want. These aren't situation where someone is in a bad party, and just wants to be kicked (which is also an attitude I abhor, just take your penalty), most situations I've come across are people asking for this right out of the gate, which is the issue most of the people in this thread are upset about.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Oh, well, if THAT'S the case, I don't really have anything to say about that. Don't understand the desire to not be in a party that'll make the instance impossible, but different boats.

[LunaHoshino]

What I don't get is...

If "differing playstyles" is a valid reason to kick someone from a group, why then is someone who voluntarily chooses to remove themselves from a group due to differing playstyles penalized for doing so? If someone realizes that they aren't meshing with a party (for example, three people want a speed run and one person doesn't), it's far better that they take the mature route of simply excusing themselves from the situation and trying to find a group that matches what they're looking for than it is for them to stay and try to sabotage the run/get themselves kicked or conveniently "DC." And I don't think they should be punished for doing so because they didn't do anything wrong; they simply happened to be matched with a group who had a different playstyle.

I'm willing to bet there'd be a lot less need for votekick and a lot less bad behavior in general if people were allowed to leave situations in which they were unhappy without being punished for it.

[Noira]

Thing is though how does one know a run is gonna go badly even if you haven't even done a pull ? I can see if you did a pull and you died on the first one and it wasn't even big (though fluke happens).

Some of these comments (not yours thunda). Make me think this community might be X-men.

[LunaHoshino]

Thing is though how does one know a run is gonna go badly even if you haven't even done a pull ?

Sometimes all it takes to know that something is going to be a disaster is one look at someone's gear. My FC once had a terrible Titan HM run with a PUG MNK who was using an i37 weapon. We barely, BARELY managed to squeak past the DPS check after multiple wipes thanks to our healers stance dancing.

[Syrehn]

Sometimes all it takes to know that something is going to be a disaster is one look at someone's gear. My FC once had a terrible Titan HM run with a PUG MNK who was using an i37 weapon. We barely, BARELY managed to squeak past the DPS check after multiple wipes thanks to our healers stance dancing.

Just looking at someone's gear isn't always true indicator of how well they will perform and, imo, doesn't warrant asking to be kicked before a pull has even been made. I've seen undergeared pugs perform amazingly well.

Also keep in mind that what might be undergeared by your standards might not actually be undergeared for the level/difficulty of the duty even if they (pugs) don't dps as well as you'd like.

[LunaHoshino]

Just looking at someone's gear isn't always true indicator of how well they will perform and, imo, doesn't warrant asking to be kicked before a pull has even been made. I've seen undergeared pugs perform amazingly well.

So have I, but nine times out of ten, if taking a look at someone's gear makes me go "oh geez," it's going to be a long and messy run. My friend once had a tank who held aggro like nobody's business in sunglasses and mostly spiritbonding gear, but things like that are (in my experience) the exception rather than the rule. Still, I personally would give something at least one try, though I can understand why other people might not want to.

Edited to add that I'm talking about seriously undergearing like the MNK in my example, not someone being in a mix of i90/i100 gear for hard roulette or something. Someone whose general gear is around the ilvl requirement for a dungeon is fine. Someone who is basically cheating the requirement by using gear meant for another class is not.

[Ashkendor]

Sometimes all it takes to know that something is going to be a disaster is one look at someone's gear. My FC once had a terrible Titan HM run with a PUG MNK who was using an i37 weapon. We barely, BARELY managed to squeak past the DPS check after multiple wipes thanks to our healers stance dancing.

One undergeared DPS hasn't been a problem in Titan for ages though, so that wasn't just him.

Hell, I've finished it with all four DPS off the platform even before Heavensward.