"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[myahele]

I think penalties for being vote kicked multiple times in a day will eventually be implemented in game. After All, many demanded there be a way to prevent in progess fishers, so they did the 3 strikes rule and the 30 min penalty. Players demanded a way to not get the same person that's been vote kicked and a few weeks ago SE implemented a system just for that.

Not perfect, but nobody has been complaining about it.

I think eventually there'll be a DF penalty for being vote-kicked too many times in a single day

[Sebazy]

Can confirm the above, I know a few people who have gotten banned for this.

Whilst personally I wouldn't report someone if they have a reasonably fair reason (Aka their static needs them), if they simply don't like the dungeon or comp we got dealt then that's tough. Give the group a chance before crying/whining pls <3

[Onebie]

If it is a tank or healer then, well bad luck. If it is a dps we just go to the end boss if he starts coming with us we kick him right before the end so he gets our full pentalty
Got some douche in Outer Castrum, was a tank who just logged out. As we reached the last boss he tried to attack him but we ran out of the arena and then he left. That was an awsome feeling!

[Ranzan]

A few months ago I would agree in not kicking but lately(especially after HW launch) I've been getting parties on my healer or tank where we are constantly wiping. I try to vote abandon but it gets rejected I'm going to ask for me to be kick. Why should we stay if there isn't a chance of winning?

[Syrehn]

A few months ago I would agree in not kicking but lately(especially after HW launch) I've been getting parties on my healer or tank where we are constantly wiping. I try to vote abandon but it gets rejected I'm going to ask for me to be kick. Why should we stay if there isn't a chance of winning?

If you feel your group is that horrible in roulette and the rest of the team are not willing to vote abandon for w/e reason you don't have to stay if you feel there is no chance of winning. You have the option to leave the group at any time of your own free will. What you're describing, if a player in that scenario asks for a kick, is still an attempt to circumvent the duty finder penalty timer by misusing the vote kick feature and it can have negative impacts on the rest of the party.

[Ranzan]

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so it ok to be penalize because the party is selfish and too stubborn to see they can't stop wiping? That's why I feel you should be able to vote kick ur self or when vote abandon happens the people who voted to leave gets leave and the rest stay.

[RiceisNice]

so it ok to be penalize because the party is selfish and too stubborn to see they can't stop wiping? That's why I feel you should be able to vote kick ur self or when vote abandon happens the people who voted to leave gets leave and the rest stay.

The alternative is that people will leave an instance immediately without a penalty because they got the dungeon they don't like. From a tank and healer perspective, this means nothing to them since their queues are incredibly short, while leafers will be stuck waiting for their story mode dungeons to pop, or DPS being stuck with longer queues.

[Ranzan]

The alternative is that people will leave an instance immediately without a penalty because they got the dungeon they don't like. From a tank and healer perspective, this means nothing to them since their queues are incredibly short, while leafers will be stuck waiting for their story mode dungeons to pop, or DPS being stuck with longer queues.

you could never kick or vote abandon at the BEGINNING of the instance in the first place... Idk why people say that and said tools state that a certain amount of time has to pass first. But ppl keep saying at the beginning thou.

[Synestra]

A few months ago I would agree in not kicking but lately(especially after HW launch) I've been getting parties on my healer or tank where we are constantly wiping.

I stopped doing roulettes alltogether on my tank, player RNG is just too much for me i guess and there is other, more "RNG-free" ways of getting tomes.

[Purrfectstorm]

It makes just as much sense to tell people that don't want speedruns to use PF as it does to tell people that want speedruns to use PF. Using DF in either case, players risk being grouped with others with a different play-style. Some people are good about adapting to this (tanks will go slower or others will go faster, for example), but some people don't want to adapt.

It doesn't matter whether people want to speedrun, not speedrun, adapt, or not adapt, these are just play-style differences and it doesn't automatically make someone a jerk because they have a different play-style than yours. I don't understand why so many people want to penalize the latter people even if the penalties also hit some of the former. Besides, as I have been saying, there are other ways of dealing with people leaving an instance right off than a penalty timer (like their losing their roulette bonus).

Penalty timers prevent players from playing the majority of the game (since the majority is instanced) and I don't think it makes sense from a business standpoint to discourage players from playing your game for chunks of time. Not only that, but it's questionable how much penalty timers even do the job they're intended to do. I would absolutely still leave right away, even as a DPS, if I got some impression that I was in for a miserable experience (which almost never happens btw). As a sidenote, I think DPS queues are really overestimated; I switched from main tank to main DPS at HW release and my queues have been 5-10 min longer AT MOST.

As for people asking for votekick, I have never had that happen in the first 5 min of a dungeon, ever. If someone asks 20 min in to be vote kicked, they probably aren't asking because they don't like the duty. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but I'd kick someone if they didn't at any time want to be there. Then I'd just ask someone from my FC or LS if they could join in progress to help me out. Building connections with other people seems like a better solution to me for dealing with people who leave or want to leave a duty than resorting to penalty timers.