3.1 Balance/QoL Request Megathread

[Shaddai]

Well yeah the whole point of casting times for bards were because mages were jealous of our speed right? Yeah I'm looking at you director and/or producer who mains blm. I noticed alot of changes were made to boost blm while bringing other casters into the gutter. You want to stop bards from moving fine but 1.5 seconds is bs. Only anytime below 1 second is fair. The rest of the points were to make combat smoother. The enimity system in general is off balance imo. A good dragoon can steal aggro from a drk. Thankfully not too many good dragoons lol. I also agree with adding a system for bards to save up multiple bloodletter procs. Some of these animations are boring. For example riot blade is just a poke. I would rather it be a full sword thrust. I am currently working towards all DOW classes to 60 and i can only speak for those classes. I know about DOM, but i wont speak about them unless i get them to 60 which is unlikely.

[Kenji1134]

Yeah I'm looking at you director and/or producer who mains blm. I noticed alot of changes were made to boost blm while bringing other casters into the gutter.

*blink* /10char

[hallena]

Well yeah the whole point of casting times for bards were because mages were jealous of our speed right? Yeah I'm looking at you director and/or producer who mains blm. I noticed alot of changes were made to boost blm while bringing other casters into the gutter. .

you wut, they nerfed Blm's pretty badly and summoner is a better option for most if not every alexander floor.
I just can't take you seriously complaining about your laughable 1.5s casting time when other classes has 2.5-4s casting time and are doing just fine.

[Odowla]

oh no my massively and stupid overpowered aoe got nerfed... qqqqq

I mean, come on, doing 1,000 potency a gcd every like 3 GCD's in an Aoe without any resources is fuckign insane, please guys, you know it needed to be nerfed. The only reason SMN is better on a2 is because of Vulnerability stacks and Bane interacting - really they're on the same level (except that enochian is retarded since it doesnt do shit aoe)

[Kabooa]

I mean, come on, doing 1,000 potency a gcd every like 3 GCD's in an Aoe without any resources is fuckign insane)

Assuming you mean fire2 x 2 into flare

It's 360 + 476 (or someodd): We'll round up to 840 AoE potency. If we assume no spell speed that's 10 seconds.

Transpose into Ice. If you're lucky you tick MP right away, if not you wait up to 3 seconds. Soon as MP ticks you cast Fire3. Too much spell speed means you tick once and can't fire2 into flare. Going straight into flare means you wait on transpose. You either time for two ticks of mp when entering fire stance or go through a few more GCDs going into Ice3 and then back into fire3.

So it's 10s for 840 potency
Transpose
3.5-6.5s for two mp ticks and fire3 back into Fire stance. (120 to one target, since you're fire3'ing form ice stance.
840 aoe potency over 13.5 - 16.5 seconds (reduced by spell speed.)

Yeah. that's totally 1000 potency every 3 'gcds'.

[Odowla]

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Because you're totally flaring a single target

oh yeah and a summoner has
bio / bio 2 / miasma all of which do
240 / 350 / 300, total of 850 potency. Until you consider that those don't do it instantly, in fact bio 1 does less damage than all of your abilities in that same 16 seconds

"yeah but deathflare"
440 potency once every 30 seconds

painflare is 200 every 10 but really its less than 400 potency a minute

you can still go flare > trans > fire 3 > fire 2 > fire 2 > flare way the fuck more than 3 times in a minute.
Something you don't understand is SMN aaoe burst is only so high every like, second pull, due to aetherflow/trance/deathflare being gated behind a 60 second CD. Yeah i know flare loses potency but on 6 targets its only 25% damage lost. Not bad when you consider its a deathflare you can shit 3 of out in a couple of seconds.

[OneWingedSora]

I do 1180-1200 on A1S, 1.9k on A2S and 1160 on A3S(was actually 1220 once but we wiped that run :/) in i198 w/o a Ninja. I don't think BLM needs any buffs at all. It's AOE is perfectly fine and it's ST destroys SMN and is only second to Dragoon if you have a bard. It has decent support in Apoc, which can be a life saver in end game raids.

[Kabooa]

Preface: While writing this out it turns out we're both ignoring a lot of variables, time included. Rather than mess of text this, here's the TLDR/W.

Black mage wins assuming ever increasing mob density that dies after 60 seconds or within 10 seconds.
Summoner wins assuming mob packs of 3-6 that die between 20 and 55 seconds.

PS: Guess which one is more applicable.
PPS: This is then not a matter of who got out better, but who is currently better suited for current content. In terms of AoE: Summoners are better suited for current content. Black Mage for when things need to die right god damn now.

I still want my flare back.

[OneWingedSora]

There would be no reason to bring SMN over a BLM to end game content if Flare got buffed again since BLM already destroys SMN in Single Target.

[Shaddai]

you wut, they nerfed Blm's pretty badly and summoner is a better option for most if not every alexander floor.
I just can't take you seriously complaining about your laughable 1.5s casting time when other classes has 2.5-4s casting time and are doing just fine.

As someone pointed out I would rather not derail the topic so this will be my last response about that. Casters always had cast times. Bards went from instant to a full 1.5 secs. Imagine all your cast time got an extra 1.5 secs. It's like that.