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    Kenji1134's Avatar
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddai View Post
    Yeah I'm looking at you director and/or producer who mains blm. I noticed alot of changes were made to boost blm while bringing other casters into the gutter.
    *blink* /10char
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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddai View Post
    Well yeah the whole point of casting times for bards were because mages were jealous of our speed right? Yeah I'm looking at you director and/or producer who mains blm. I noticed alot of changes were made to boost blm while bringing other casters into the gutter. .
    you wut, they nerfed Blm's pretty badly and summoner is a better option for most if not every alexander floor.
    I just can't take you seriously complaining about your laughable 1.5s casting time when other classes has 2.5-4s casting time and are doing just fine.
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    oh no my massively and stupid overpowered aoe got nerfed... qqqqq

    I mean, come on, doing 1,000 potency a gcd every like 3 GCD's in an Aoe without any resources is fuckign insane, please guys, you know it needed to be nerfed. The only reason SMN is better on a2 is because of Vulnerability stacks and Bane interacting - really they're on the same level (except that enochian is retarded since it doesnt do shit aoe)
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I mean, come on, doing 1,000 potency a gcd every like 3 GCD's in an Aoe without any resources is fuckign insane)
    Assuming you mean fire2 x 2 into flare

    It's 360 + 476 (or someodd): We'll round up to 840 AoE potency. If we assume no spell speed that's 10 seconds.

    Transpose into Ice. If you're lucky you tick MP right away, if not you wait up to 3 seconds. Soon as MP ticks you cast Fire3. Too much spell speed means you tick once and can't fire2 into flare. Going straight into flare means you wait on transpose. You either time for two ticks of mp when entering fire stance or go through a few more GCDs going into Ice3 and then back into fire3.

    So it's 10s for 840 potency
    Transpose
    3.5-6.5s for two mp ticks and fire3 back into Fire stance. (120 to one target, since you're fire3'ing form ice stance.
    840 aoe potency over 13.5 - 16.5 seconds (reduced by spell speed.)

    Yeah. that's totally 1000 potency every 3 'gcds'.
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
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    Because you're totally flaring a single target

    oh yeah and a summoner has
    bio / bio 2 / miasma all of which do
    240 / 350 / 300, total of 850 potency. Until you consider that those don't do it instantly, in fact bio 1 does less damage than all of your abilities in that same 16 seconds

    "yeah but deathflare"
    440 potency once every 30 seconds

    painflare is 200 every 10 but really its less than 400 potency a minute

    you can still go flare > trans > fire 3 > fire 2 > fire 2 > flare way the fuck more than 3 times in a minute.
    Something you don't understand is SMN aaoe burst is only so high every like, second pull, due to aetherflow/trance/deathflare being gated behind a 60 second CD. Yeah i know flare loses potency but on 6 targets its only 25% damage lost. Not bad when you consider its a deathflare you can shit 3 of out in a couple of seconds.
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    Ai Shaddai
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    you wut, they nerfed Blm's pretty badly and summoner is a better option for most if not every alexander floor.
    I just can't take you seriously complaining about your laughable 1.5s casting time when other classes has 2.5-4s casting time and are doing just fine.
    As someone pointed out I would rather not derail the topic so this will be my last response about that. Casters always had cast times. Bards went from instant to a full 1.5 secs. Imagine all your cast time got an extra 1.5 secs. It's like that.
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    Is that so

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    Jace Ossura
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    "A lot of changes boosted Black Mage"

    Yep. We traded King of AoE to king of Single Target Burst. Except Dragoons still burst pretty hard and maintain higher sustained single target DPS.

    Oh, and Summoners are currently just as good if not better AoE while being on par single target DPS.

    And basically every other class isn't !#@^ed over royally by ill timed ground AoE.

    Yeah, black mages made out like kings, alright.
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Oh look, this thread derailed into complaining about Black Mages and Bards. Who didn't see that coming?

    Back on track, I'd appreciate our MCH fanny packs matching our guns a bit more and perhaps the capacity to make Gauss Barrell invisible, or perhaps just less bulky.
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    Lili Reina
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    I don't think you understand what off GCD means
    i think YOU dont understand. try doing ten>weaponskill>chi and youll get a rabbit
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