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  1. #101
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Cept on 2 mob fights like A1S.
    Or fights that require repeated movement and target losses, like A3S.
    On 2 mob fights, they should come out equal. BLMs superior ST and Thunderclouds multidotting will make up for SMNs multidotting. I don't know what you mean with A3S, I have never lost Enochian there after my first clear and I haven't seen a higher SMN parse than the top BLM parses there either.
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  2. #102
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    On 2 mob fights, they should come out equal. BLMs superior ST and Thunderclouds multidotting will make up for SMNs multidotting. I don't know what you mean with A3S, I have never lost Enochian there after my first clear and I haven't seen a higher SMN parse than the top BLM parses there either.
    I haven't played BLM yet in 3.0, but I'm guessing it all comes down to skills on this subject...

    From what I've seen, BLM seems to be in a very good spot, just like you say, and it looks like it's more a case of BLM being a challenge to play correctly. At least compared to 2.X.

    So to players out there, SE don't balance according to what an average player can do, they look at the maximum performances. They ofc don't want one job to be 10 times harder or something, but there are harder and easier jobs in this game, and that has always been the case.
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  3. #103
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    -_- I also want to point out the only change I suggested for Black mage is Thundercloud giving Thunder Raiton's animation.

    Literally.

    I just want a lightning bolt.

    I actually suggested Summoner Aetherflow refreshing Aethertrail duration. I ain't up in arms saying 'black mage needs buff.' It's really hard to be angry at a flare / ether nerf when you blast the crap out of something's face for 10k back to back.

    Just clarifying. Arguing for the sake of arguing and all.
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  4. #104
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    -_- I also want to point out the only change I suggested for Black mage is Thundercloud giving Thunder Raiton's animation.
    Yeah the explosion it doesnt doesnt feel satisfying. Maybe change that animation for Crits only? Make it really satisfying and feel powerful
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  5. #105
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Yeah the explosion it doesnt doesnt feel satisfying. Maybe change that animation for Crits only? Make it really satisfying and feel powerful
    Right? Just saying that the opening cinematic had a black mage flinging a lightning bolt into somebody's face.

    Do want / 10
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  6. #106
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    Ai Shaddai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Right? Just saying that the opening cinematic had a black mage flinging a lightning bolt into somebody's face.

    Do want / 10
    I feel you. On my Monk only dragon kick and Forbidden Chakra feel decent. The rest feel so weak. Also in the ninja story at 50 I think really kicks blm in the balls. Those ninjas aoe's were lightning storms and multi bolts hitting the ground. that should have been a blm thing.
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  7. #107
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddai View Post
    I feel you. On my Monk only dragon kick and Forbidden Chakra feel decent. The rest feel so weak. Also in the ninja story at 50 I think really kicks blm in the balls. Those ninjas aoe's were lightning storms and multi bolts hitting the ground. that should have been a blm thing.
    Hell you think it kicks blm in the balls what about ninja's lack of aoe and how do you think it makes us feel lol. Why can't my Katon apply a burn debuff to what it hits like in the job quest.
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  8. #108
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
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    Funny, a lot of the requested changes/irks are people complaining that other classes can do things their class can't do and they want to be able to do it as well, then go on to complain about job homogenization in other threads.
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  9. #109
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    Ai Shaddai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Funny, a lot of the requested changes/irks are people complaining that other classes can do things their class can't do and they want to be able to do it as well, then go on to complain about job homogenization in other threads.
    I was speaking more about animations rather than actual effects in battle. People really underestimate visuals and its effect on enjoy-ability. In the job quests such as ninja the animations for, lets face it, spells are complete superior to the main magic iconic caster of final fantasy. I honestly think that really is unfair. I don't even use BLM, but the only the spell that stands out visually is fire 4. If the animations in this game were more intense as to visually represent a progression of strength and skill, especially as a mage, then I believe people would be having alot more fun. That's all not even considering actual stats or gameplay.
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  10. #110
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    Conleth Cirino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I still desperately want MCH Animation Buffs & 10s to recast GB/WM.

    We ESPECIALLY need the potency removed from Blank Shot. Way too many encounters we have to sacrifice that potency in our kit or it's a troll move.

    I like the function of it, not the damage... we shouldn't be encouraged to use it to up our DPS.

    I would love if Blank Shot & Foot Graze were combined into one.

    Hot Shot should be made into an Ability so it doesn't consume Ammo.

    Lead Shot should have an Ammo Effect... maybe same damage but in a quicker range-of-time so you can squeeze a couple Ammo'd Lead Shots into WF or something huehuehue.
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