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  1. #841
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    lol why do u lurk at the dummies but never hit 'em? <_<
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  2. #842
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Creepin' and lurkin'. The Dummies are my home bois.
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  3. #843
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    Charybdis's Avatar
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    Charybdis Messina
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Big thanks to Scylla Messina. I now have a roughly working damage formula for you Summoners:

    =ROUNDDOWN(((POTENCY/100)*(MD*0.0394452+1)*(INT*0.1218814)*(DET*0.0001295+1)*BUFFS)-3)

    Only works for spells, sorry book-whackers. No info on Pets either.

    Getting closer to finishing off my Summoner Rotation model as well. Summoner is so haaaarrdddd
    Scylla Messina (reddit username) here! Just happy to help for all the summoners. Don't post much on the official forums but I lurk! Excited to see the numbers when it's all said and done. Been curious about how spell speed affects our pets but it seems that spell speed will end up being really low for us even WITH it affecting them on top of dots.
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  4. #844
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    A4S ACC cap is probably 540. Haven't missed all night, have missed at 537. I'll update if I miss, otherwise it's 540ish.
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  5. #845
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    A4S ACC cap is probably 540. Haven't missed all night, have missed at 537. I'll update if I miss, otherwise it's 540ish.
    Wow that is low.

    So only like 5% difference between A1S->A4S

    My estimate of 9% was way too high then.

    Good to know cause that opens up some great gear options.
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  6. #846
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yea the ones that increase dps by 0.5%!
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  7. #847
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    Drakeos Shadowbane
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    So whats easy first time 60 SMN rotation i should be using cause been using Aetherflow > Tri-Disaster > Bane (or boss energy drain) > Painflare > Fester > DWT > Ruin 3 2-3x then Deathflare then all my skills on CD excrept for dots and ruin/ruin 2 ? so help ?
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  8. #848
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    So whats easy first time 60 SMN rotation i should be using cause been using Aetherflow > Tri-Disaster > Bane (or boss energy drain) > Painflare > Fester > DWT > Ruin 3 2-3x then Deathflare then all my skills on CD excrept for dots and ruin/ruin 2 ? so help ?
    The opener I preach is pretty easy IMO, it's in the OP, or you can try Haven's and see if you find you get more damage out of that.

    Basic priorities of a SMN in single target fights, which should help you understand what an opener should look like:

    - Use 3 stacks, stretched out. 2 in DWT (unless your opener doesn't allow for this on the first DWT), 1 when Aethertrail is sub-10s so you can keep Aethertrail up until your next Aetherflow.
    - Cast as many R3s in DWT as humanly possible. Use 3D in DWT, don't use Shadow Flare in DWT (depending on opener it should line up fine regardless).
    - Use Rouse/Spur on CD, Enkindle also used on CD but you may wish to be more selective about its use.
    - ROUGH priority for stacks: 3+ target Bane > 2 target Bane with buffed + Contagioned DoTs that will live long enough > Painflare on 2+ targets > Fester >>>> Painflare/Energy Drain (mostly used for burst if you absolutely need it, like ending a fight suddenly or killing an add who will otherwise wipe the group). This is just a loose guideline of your priority; there are exceptions based on how long enemies will live and other requirements per the fight. About 90% of the time you will just use Fester with the occasional Bane.
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  9. #849
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Just a note painflare is very good if you are about to lose atunement and

    1. Target is about to go immune, and fester is on CD.
    2. Target has just reappeared, but you do not have time to apply 3 dots.

    Also I dunno if anyone has brought it up but you can waste tri-disaster if you fester too quickly (like spam it) right as you cast it.

    The dots do apply much faster than bio does, but it still takes about 0.5 seconds or so.
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  10. #850
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    well if you are on an EU server lol
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