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    Kona_Nightwind's Avatar
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    Kona Nightwind
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Now if someone could duplicate the gear above but with i200 chest and i210 ring, that'd make my decision before raid so much easier <3
    We need to bribe Dervy, so he'll do SMN stats weights next. I have cookies.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    We need to bribe Dervy, so he'll do SMN stats weights next. I have cookies.
    I have someone gathering Summoner data for me. I forgot to ask him to get me Garuda/Ifrit data. If someone could start collecting Garuda + Ifrit Data with varying MD/INT/DET/CRT/SS so I can see how those scales scale proportionately, then all I'll need to do just input the GCD rotation and it's done.
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    lirovaldo's Avatar
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    Jace Terrs
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    If i have the i170 set, what's better: to go for the eso weapon first, or the chest + ring?
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by lirovaldo View Post
    If i have the i170 set, what's better: to go for the eso weapon first, or the chest + ring?
    i170 weapon too? If so, probably the weapon. Most debates on chest + ring or weapon first have i190 weapon as the baseline.
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    lirovaldo's Avatar
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    Jace Terrs
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Yep, i170 weapon too. Thanks for awnsering!
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    Sidra's Avatar
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Here is 1 set of data to start working from

    WD: 102 Det: 340 SS: 586 Crit: 759 INT: 934 STR: 194 iLVL: 186

    Garuda's 100 pot Windblade:
    Min: 531
    Max: 586

    Ifrit's 120 pot Burning Strike:
    Min: 379
    Max: 418

    Ifrit's AutoAttack:
    Min: 190
    Max: 210

    Notes:
    -Data gained from 20 min dummy parses
    -Even w/ over 200 SS, their abilities are still 3.0 second recasts despite my own GCD dropping down to 2.41
    -Have we ever understood why Burning Strike hits weaker than Wind Blade?
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    -Data gained from 20 min dummy parses
    -Even w/ over 200 SS, their abilities are still 3.0 second recasts despite my own GCD dropping down to 2.41
    -Have we ever understood why Burning Strike hits weaker than Wind Blade?
    I believe it was due to Ifrit's attacks being based off WD instead of MD (physical damage)

    I think that you would need to record the # of attacks over time in order to properly record the effect of SS for pets. Although Burning Crush and Aerial Slash set to 28s upon use so I wonder if they are effected as well or if it is just a server delay.
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    ShinryuReishiki's Avatar
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Ultros
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    The (re)cast times on the pet tooltips do not update to reflect the difference in speed. The time remaining countdown which appears on the icon of the tooltip, however, does correctly reflect it. In any case, the difference is small enough that it's hard to perceive without having both speeds going side-by-side.

    Edit:
    Just did a quick test, recording at 60fps and counting the frames it takes before the first tick down on the timer.

    At 354 (+0) Spell Speed, Wind Blade's recast is 3.0s, Aerial Slash is 30.0s.
    At 559 (+205) Spell Speed, Wind Blade's recast is 2.9s, Aerial Slash is 29.03s.
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    Last edited by ShinryuReishiki; 08-06-2015 at 07:29 AM.

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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Spriggan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    thanks for helping out dervy
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    Sidra's Avatar
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Their GCD times are listed, why would you have to count them (aside from perhaps Ifrit's autoattack)?
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