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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Uh, yes actually. SCH's beats AST in group wide dps increase with Fey Wind. Which it can do in conjunction with Sacred Soil. Which is AE and the same potency as a single target bole. Granted you do trade mobility for AE of SS, but considering how big the AE is I've never had a problem with it. What's more is that they are also consistent with their buffs and not at the mercy of RNG. So in the end you have SCH who can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow every 60 sec + an AE bole every 30 like clockwork.
    Not that I disagree with your opinion at all on other healers vs. AST, but your statement needs a correction. Fey Wind is nothing like a Balance, only like Arrow. Balance is a straight up 10% DPS increase vs. Fey Wind/Arrow which are attack speed increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Not that I disagree with your opinion at all on other healers vs. AST, but your statement needs a correction. Fey Wind is nothing like a Balance, only like Arrow. Balance is a straight up 10% DPS increase vs. Fey Wind/Arrow which are attack speed increase.
    When I say "dps increase" I'm not referring to raw damage, but actual dps increase. Arrow/Fey Wind increase dps by making attacks happen faster/more often, rather than a direct numbers boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mclyde View Post
    Not at all





    Not at all.
    Eudyptes is 100% right and you are 100% wrong.

    Now you know how your braindead, effortless contradiction feels!
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    When I say "dps increase" I'm not referring to raw damage, but actual dps increase. Arrow/Fey Wind increase dps by making attacks happen faster/more often, rather than a direct numbers boost.
    Correct, but in your earlier post you specifically stated that a "SCH can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow." My point is, that is only half correct as it is like Arrow, but nothing like Balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Correct, but in your earlier post you specifically stated that a "SCH can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow." My point is, that is only half correct as it is like Arrow, but nothing like Balance.
    You're missing the point. All that matters between these 3 buffs is how much they increase dps by. It doesn't matter if that is through speed or raw damage, the end result is the same.

    Admittedly it's been about a month or so since I've seen the math, but if memory serves both cards end up evening out, and are only better than SCH by 1% or so. A difference so small that SCH catches up and surpases the instant they don't get an expanded RR and arrow/balance on alternating turns.
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    No, I'm not missing the point. You are.

    You are trying to state Fey Wind is the same as Balance and that is flat out incorrect. I'm sorry if you just don't want to admit you made a mistake in your post.

    Anyways, good day to you. I'm not going to waste anymore posts on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, I'm not missing the point. You are.

    You are trying to compare Fey Wind to Balance and that is flat out incorrect. I'm sorry if you just don't want to admit you made a mistake in your post.
    I think you lack a fundamental understanding of how "damage per second" works...
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    And now you are resorting to childish insults because I called you out.

    Now, I'm very much completely done with this conversation with you.
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    Are you for real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Are you for real?
    Are you? You posted something that is flat out incorrect (at least a portion of your statement), I called you out on it (and in a totally non-rude, non-confrontational manner), you refuse to admit you made an error, and then you resort to telling me I lack an understanding of how damage works. LMAO wow.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 08-13-2015 at 11:59 PM.

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