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    Quote Originally Posted by Mclyde View Post
    Not at all.
    Uh, yes actually. SCH's beats AST in group wide dps increase with Fey Wind. Which it can do in conjunction with Sacred Soil. Which is AE and the same potency as a single target bole. Granted you do trade mobility for AE of SS, but considering how big the AE is I've never had a problem with it. What's more is that they are also consistent with their buffs and not at the mercy of RNG. So in the end you have SCH who can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow every 60 sec + an AE bole every 30 like clockwork. AST on the other hand has to have absolutely perfect rolls every 30 sec just to slightly edge out SCH's dps increase. The moment you get a spear/ewer/spire/bole that edge is lost. Spear, ewer, and spire are also not good enough to make up for that dps loss (though spire is close). Spear and ewer just end up being used on the AST to help with MP management. Something a SCH doesn't have issue with.

    Feel free to "not at all" me all you want, but if you do please back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Uh, yes actually. SCH's beats AST in group wide dps increase with Fey Wind. Which it can do in conjunction with Sacred Soil. Which is AE and the same potency as a single target bole. Granted you do trade mobility for AE of SS, but considering how big the AE is I've never had a problem with it. What's more is that they are also consistent with their buffs and not at the mercy of RNG. So in the end you have SCH who can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow every 60 sec + an AE bole every 30 like clockwork.
    Not that I disagree with your opinion at all on other healers vs. AST, but your statement needs a correction. Fey Wind is nothing like a Balance, only like Arrow. Balance is a straight up 10% DPS increase vs. Fey Wind/Arrow which are attack speed increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Not that I disagree with your opinion at all on other healers vs. AST, but your statement needs a correction. Fey Wind is nothing like a Balance, only like Arrow. Balance is a straight up 10% DPS increase vs. Fey Wind/Arrow which are attack speed increase.
    When I say "dps increase" I'm not referring to raw damage, but actual dps increase. Arrow/Fey Wind increase dps by making attacks happen faster/more often, rather than a direct numbers boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    When I say "dps increase" I'm not referring to raw damage, but actual dps increase. Arrow/Fey Wind increase dps by making attacks happen faster/more often, rather than a direct numbers boost.
    Correct, but in your earlier post you specifically stated that a "SCH can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow." My point is, that is only half correct as it is like Arrow, but nothing like Balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Correct, but in your earlier post you specifically stated that a "SCH can basically do the equivalent to a RR expanded balance/arrow." My point is, that is only half correct as it is like Arrow, but nothing like Balance.
    You're missing the point. All that matters between these 3 buffs is how much they increase dps by. It doesn't matter if that is through speed or raw damage, the end result is the same.

    Admittedly it's been about a month or so since I've seen the math, but if memory serves both cards end up evening out, and are only better than SCH by 1% or so. A difference so small that SCH catches up and surpases the instant they don't get an expanded RR and arrow/balance on alternating turns.
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    No, I'm not missing the point. You are.

    You are trying to state Fey Wind is the same as Balance and that is flat out incorrect. I'm sorry if you just don't want to admit you made a mistake in your post.

    Anyways, good day to you. I'm not going to waste anymore posts on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, I'm not missing the point. You are.

    You are trying to compare Fey Wind to Balance and that is flat out incorrect. I'm sorry if you just don't want to admit you made a mistake in your post.
    I think you lack a fundamental understanding of how "damage per second" works...
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