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  1. #461
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    1.6k dps in A2 but i have seen higher from fellow monks in fc, you should be able to use rockbreaker full time when there is a decent amount of mobs up, obviously use purification/invigorate on cooldown, i personally don't use touch of death until last phase also to help with tp.

    1.2k dps in A3s https://i.imgur.com/D4lQZFG.jpg this was a sloppy clear also compared to last week so could do abit more.
    How many purifications are you going through? Since there's not much downtime in A2s, I find I can only use it once from when i've built 5 stacks before the fight began and possibly another time right before the 4 jagged dolls spawn but risk losing GCD dps (potentially GL3 as well) to build it up. Course I'm probably managing my TP horridly compared to you guys... When I hit 1.4-1.5k utilizing Rockbreaker, that is having all the goads and 2-3 paeons..... very painful for our bard's dps
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    Just Do It.

  2. #462
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    Letts's Avatar
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    Like Butter
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Saigwa View Post
    How many purifications are you going through? Since there's not much downtime in A2s, I find I can only use it once from when i've built 5 stacks before the fight began and possibly another time right before the 4 jagged dolls spawn but risk losing GCD dps (potentially GL3 as well) to build it up. Course I'm probably managing my TP horridly compared to you guys... When I hit 1.4-1.5k utilizing Rockbreaker, that is having all the goads and 2-3 paeons..... very painful for our bard's dps
    3x mostly. First purification I use after the second wave (would be around 700tp after using RB), it would be back up in the middle of wave 5 with both widows up, then at the start of wave 8 around the time when you kill 2 jagd dolls and the next adds spawn and get grouped together. In wave 9 it will be back up around the middle of it but I manage to finish the fight without it at that stage.
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  3. #463
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    yillin's Avatar
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    Mikha Lestoda
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    What I do for Purification in A2S is Use purification sometime during wave 2. Lets you pop 1-2 meditations before wave 3. Finish wave 3 (you will probably use invig during this but you can figure that out). 2 meditations on the way over to wave 4 (first gobwalker wave?). 2 meditations on the way to Widow, Use purification when ready to. Figure out a good time to use meditations again. At that point usually I can forgo doing some damage to use GCDs for meditation every now and then.
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  4. #464
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    Here's some worthless trivia.

    If you form shift during PB, you will "dodge" the skill.
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  5. #465
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    Here's some worthless trivia.

    If you form shift during PB, you will "dodge" the skill.
    you can use that to trigger haymaker, not really sure when it will be useful but hey, lol
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  6. #466
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    Humorless's Avatar
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Using Purification for the 2nd wave in A2S is rather... pointless. You should try to use invigorate first because it's on an actual timer rather than locked behind meditation stacks as well. Waves 3&4 are the big AOE waves so that's when I use both. You can generally get one stack between each wave without affecting your DPS. On Gobwidows, rather than avoiding the clipping of Demolish with Fracture, use meditate. You can skip Touch of death the same way but I don't run into enough TP issues to justify not using it and it's nice to have when you can't immediately get to the rear/flank or the tank is moving.
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  7. #467
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Found out theres actually a Skill Speed threshold you need to meet to be able to keep GL3 in AS3 (Found that out after a gear upgrade and a skill speed lost). When the boss switches from Normal Form to Hand form at the start of the fight, if you don't have enough Skill speed, you won't be able to get the last Snap Punch off in time and you'll be stuck with GL3 for like 3 seconds (not enough time to hit him with Snap punch after the transformation animation finishes).

    I'm currently at 546 SS, I think i'm about 25 Short, maybe a little more. So I suggest you go into AS3 with 580 SS or more to be safe. You'll notice what I'm talking about if you haven't done AS3 yet.

    Also altered my rotation if anyone cares.

    Shift to Courel > Snap > Pb > Snap > Demo > Twin > B4B X DK > Pot X Snap > IR X ToD > Elixer Field X Bootshine > Howling X True > Steel Peak X Snap > Shoulder X DK > Forbidden X Twin > Demo.

    Actually those skills might be a GCD late, ill let you guys know.

    With enough SS you should be able to keep the Potion buff until Demo. I'm testing that now, but my SS is really low.
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    Last edited by Ossom; 08-14-2015 at 02:24 AM.

  8. #468
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    Zamii's Avatar
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    snip
    i can fit in the snap punch quite comfortably there, in fact i even have time for a bootshine afterward, i do however skip out on the ToD leading up to that for 2 reasons
    1) the dot will get a dimished effect anyway because of the invulnerability
    2) makes keeping GL3 a lot safer
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  9. #469
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Letts View Post
    3x mostly. First purification I use after the second wave (would be around 700tp after using RB), it would be back up in the middle of wave 5 with both widows up, then at the start of wave 8 around the time when you kill 2 jagd dolls and the next adds spawn and get grouped together. In wave 9 it will be back up around the middle of it but I manage to finish the fight without it at that stage.
    I'm at 4 Purifications:

    Wave 1 (Preloaded 5x Meds)
    Wave 2 (Invigorate)
    Wave 3 (Purification)
    Wave 4 (Med 2x)
    Wave 5 (Invigorate near start of Gobwidow HP, weave Meds 3x during Gobwidow, then Purification after cooldown ends)
    Wave 6 (Invigorate as doll dies, then weave 5x Meds during last 20% of Gobwidow)
    Wave 7 (Purification just as dolls spawn)
    Wave 8 (Invigorate, then weave 5x Meds while finishing off last 20% of doll)
    Wave 9 (Purification)

    1574 on our first clear, but I haven't measured again.
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  10. #470
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    i can fit in the snap punch quite comfortably there, in fact i even have time for a bootshine afterward, i do however skip out on the ToD leading up to that for 2 reasons
    1) the dot will get a dimished effect anyway because of the invulnerability
    2) makes keeping GL3 a lot safer
    Boss doesn't take DoT damage while it changes forms? I'm not really keen on ignoring ToD with the new Demolish duration.
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