Thread: Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

Seems fine. I'd use baked pipira over black truffle risotto at that point though.

Originally Posted by Acedia1

Seems fine. I'd use baked pipira over black truffle risotto at that point though.

Only thing tho would be ALLLLLL that wasted ACC from Pipira. Hence why I used Truffle. I mean at least you get something from the DET vs the wasted ACC from Pipira or does the Crit gain out weigh the DET gain making the ACC gain trivial?

Hi monks.

I thought you'd appreciate that I'm working on Monk weights. I have the model up and running (was easy, as 3.0 monk hardly changed from 2.0), and it looks like Monk and Dragoon weights are extremely similar. The only difference is that Monks scale SS at 0.112.


WD: 10.730
AP: 1.000
DET: 0.139
CRT: 0.161
SS: 0.112

Now, you have to take into consideration that Monks DO NOT scale Strength similarly to the Dragoon, so do take these weights as a massive grain as salt. These weights are calculated measuring the impact of 1 Strength vs X Secondary and as the Monk scales Strength less than a Dragoon, the final weights will be different. I'm using my Dragoon model just to check for inconsistencies and see the impact the Rotation has on the Monk.

On top of this, my Auto-Attack model was created specifically for the Dragoon. I never normalised AA_DMG with the AA_Delay, so the model only works with weapons with a delay of 2.8 (which are Dragoons Weapons).

So yes, whilst those are the range of weights we'll be looking at, the final weights will be vastly different from what they will really end up being.

The crit gain from the pipira is higher than the black truffles det + crit added together with Savage gear, and thanks for working on the stat weights for Monk Dervy. At least it's something to consider for now. Really interested to see the end result.

Originally Posted by MiruWest

Only thing tho would be ALLLLLL that wasted ACC from Pipira. Hence why I used Truffle. I mean at least you get something from the DET vs the wasted ACC from Pipira or does the Crit gain out weigh the DET gain making the ACC gain trivial?

The foods are a little weird now in 3.0 for MNK, because we don't have that straight up perfect food as Truffle for example in 2.X...

Truffle only have 11 Crit and 17 Det, making it a total of 28 Secondary stats, and even though Pipira have a lot of Accuracy on it, it also have 37 Crit... So, 9 more secondary stats, and Crit is the best stat right now on top of that.

Even the new food Morel Salad have slightly less or same weight as the Pipira (depends on how the final weights are).

Originally Posted by Dervy

Hi monks.

I thought you'd appreciate that I'm working on Monk weights. I have the model up and running (was easy, as 3.0 monk hardly changed from 2.0), and it looks like Monk and Dragoon weights are extremely similar. The only difference is that Monks scale SS at 0.112.


WD: 10.730
AP: 1.000
DET: 0.139
CRT: 0.161
SS: 0.112

Now, you have to take into consideration that Monks DO NOT scale Strength similarly to the Dragoon, so do take these weights as a massive grain as salt. These weights are calculated measuring the impact of 1 Strength vs X Secondary and as the Monk scales Strength less than a Dragoon, the final weights will be different. I'm using my Dragoon model just to check for inconsistencies and see the impact the Rotation has on the Monk.

On top of this, my Auto-Attack model was created specifically for the Dragoon. I never normalised AA_DMG with the AA_Delay, so the model only works with weapons with a delay of 2.8 (which are Dragoons Weapons).

So yes, whilst those are the range of weights we'll be looking at, the final weights will be vastly different from what they will really end up being.

Really appreciate it !

How big of a difference do you think the final weights could have though? like, is it huge difference, or just some fine tuning?

Won't be a big difference. DET may weigh a bit more, but please do take it with a grain of salt until I've got a damage formula for Monks working.

If people don't want to wait for me to level a Monk to 60 (which will be a very long time), you could speed up the process and collect data for me.

Originally Posted by Dervy

Won't be a big difference. DET may weigh a bit more, but please do take it with a grain of salt until I've got a damage formula for Monks working.

If people don't want to wait for me to level a Monk to 60 (which will be a very long time), you could speed up the process and collect data for me.

I was actually about to get with you on this. You were gone, and I was swamped with work, but now that you're back and I'm not totally entrenched with work I can do some testing for you. I also keep almost all the monk gear I ever get since it's all I play. I have quite the collection now.

Anyway, I'll get with you later on to find out what you need.

Originally Posted by MiruWest

So I guess we will just have alot of ACC this tier that will go to waste

Seems so... And I even tried to account for that 18 Accuracy from Pipira and change some other gear piece, but the pieces that give accuracy, give such a big amount, that it doesn't seem to work. At least not without getting worse stats.

You could try this Miru: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R6ZI
The only difference is just 1 accs from yours to this one. Also, the 630 acc is for frontal A3, flank being 615 ish according to another, and I doubt we'll need frontal acc as much in A4.