Vote-kicked for explaining 1st-timer tactics and having impatients get what's coming

[Kosmos992k]

Sorry bud, but you're mistaken. The tank does not set the flow. Regardless of what you might think, there are 4 ppl in the dungeon. Not just you. The party sets the flow. If 3 ppl want to you to pull another set of mobs, then do it. If the healer is pulling another mob, it means he knows he can keep you alive. If that happens then you, the tank, shouldn't have this mentality of, "if you want to tank it then go ahead." I'm tired of the "me, me, me" mindset. You're playing an mmo with other ppl. The party sets the flow. If you want to set your own pace, please go player a single player game

Sorry, but no, that's wrong. The jobs are structured in such a way that the tank's job is to do the pulls and manage the mobs, and consequently set the pace. A good tank will only pull as much as the party can handle. But the truth is that as such, the tank sets the pace. There is nothing me, me, me about that, it's the nature of the jobs, if you want to tank so much, put your cane down and pick up a sword and shield.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Sorry, but no, that's wrong. The jobs are structured in such a way that the tank's job is to do the pulls and manage the mobs, and consequently set the pace. A good tank will only pull as much as the party can handle. But the truth is that as such, the tank sets the pace. There is nothing me, me, me about that, it's the nature of the jobs, if you want to tank so much, put your cane down and pick up a sword and shield.

Unfortunately you can't do that in a dungeon to restrictions. If I see a tank that is obviously to slow I will pick up whatever I have to fix the problem.

This is why I want more "specs" to the game so we can tank even as a DPS and healer, or DPS as a tank. Multiple specs and talents will help do this.

It's not up to you to decide whether another player is too slow or whatever. If you did that to me, I would not respond well, and I doubt other tanks would either. Attend to your own role and the dungeon will proceed quickly enough.

I don't care about "Roles" I care about "Winning and defeating my enemy."

I will do anything to win, even dishonor my useless titles and roles. That is how I play and fight.

Except this would throw a wrench into the whole duty finder role setup, what would you do if you queue'd current endgame content, and got two dps spec'd tanks, two dps spec'd healers? Sit around for 15 min to vote abandon? Kick someone after 5 min? have someone eat a 30 min penalty?

We need more variety in our Jobs. They are pretty lackluster atm, everyone is pretty much the same.

[Kosmos992k]

Unfortunately you can't do that in a dungeon to restrictions. If I see a tank that is obviously to slow I will pick up whatever I have to fix the problem.

This is why I want more "specs" to the game so we can tank even as a DPS and healer, or DPS as a tank. Multiple specs and talents will help do this.

It's not up to you to decide whether another player is too slow or whatever. If you did that to me, I would not respond well, and I doubt other tanks would either. Attend to your own role and the dungeon will proceed quickly enough.

[Gralna]

Unfortunately you can't do that in a dungeon to restrictions. If I see a tank that is obviously to slow I will pick up whatever I have to fix the problem.

This is why I want more "specs" to the game so we can tank even as a DPS and healer, or DPS as a tank. Multiple specs and talents will help do this.

Except this would throw a wrench into the whole duty finder role setup, what would you do if you queue'd current endgame content, and got two dps spec'd tanks, two dps spec'd healers? Sit around for 15 min to vote abandon? Kick someone after 5 min? have someone eat a 30 min penalty?

[TouchandFeel]

This is why I want more "specs" to the game so we can tank even as a DPS and healer, or DPS as a tank. Multiple specs and talents will help do this.

Even if they added multiple specs to each job that allowed current jobs to spec as a different role, they would still be queueing as that role (ex: a DRG specced as a tank, would still queue as a tank), so the situation would not change, you would still have the basic party make up we have now. If jobs were able to be multiple roles at once (at least farther than swapping tank stance or using cleric stance) it would cause groups to easily become a chaotic mess where everyone is trying to do everything. This is not how the game is structured on its most basic foundations and would not work well without a vast (i.e. complete) revamp.

[Kosmos992k]

I don't care about "Roles" I care about "Winning and defeating my enemy."

I will do anything to win, even dishonor my useless titles and roles. That is how I play and fight.

Then you are a fool who doesn't know how to play this game or play with others, thank you for confirming as much by your own words.

The roles and jobs in this game are structured to work together in a complementary way. We all have specific strengths and weaknesses along with buffs and debuffs that work hand in hand to diminish the enemy and maximize the team. If you cannot work within that, you are ignoring basic elements of the game. Such willful ignorance reveals the extent of your foolishness.