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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Off topic but I have a theory ...

    Are the Garleans an Allagan-created slave race?

    Think about it. They are very proficient with Allagan technology but they can't use magic - the perfect slaves for the Allagans, smart enough to maintenance all their technology but can never overthrow them as magic would give the Allagans are huge edge over them; the Allagans would seem like gods to them.

    Edit: That mark on their head could be part of a mechanism by which the Allagans control them.
    They aren't using Allagan Tech. The closest thing they ever used was Ultima Weapon and that was with the help of The Ascians just to even get the damn thing workig.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daranion View Post
    Sorry I lost ya a long time ago when you know who died. If the shield is unstoppable and does not let anyone inside... then that is a fatal flaw. As soon as we went inside and pierced it we/everything living on the island would be dead due to not having air.
    I thought it was general knowledge that shields typically block unwanted things; Like in any other media or even our own immune systems. The point was, if you weren't an Allagan possess a key, or have a means of generating large amount of aether into a spike(and dragons don't meet either of those crtieras), you aren't getting through. Whats the point of even nit picking something like air being allowed through when we're speaking dragons?

    I'll say this again, you're literally grasping at straws just to make a point in your argument. You're coming up with a lot of "but what ifs" which end up retconning the lore that's already in place and trying to attack points that honestly don't make a whole lot of sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Did the primal bahamut atack the allagans once he scape? ehh NO, he didnt care or notice the difference between llagans and orther eorzean people.

    My point that dragons hate man or better said, they dont trust men, beacause of what happened with the allagans and Ishgard( that was a total remind for them ) Dragons kills withouth care, they dont care if you are Ishgard, allag or non of them.
    If you guys did MSQ you would notice that the man and dragon started to war just when man showed up on cortheas before Shiva. Beacuse of all what man did, they dont trust them and even hate them. when I was on dravania, the dragons did care if I was an sihardian or not? no they tried to kill me anyway. "As long as it fits in the story it makes sense"


    Thats my point, dragons man, I mean all spoken races.

    and speaking of this possible new race, I dont care what is gonna be, if the manage to solve with the Auras, they will solve it again
    Dragons have a mistrust of people due to what Ishgardians have done. There ia specific dragon in a side quest that got shot down by an Ishgardian and does not fully trust the player character. Does not necessarily mean they will go out of their way to fight with them, they simply do not have a reason to interact with them anymore (see Hraesvelgr)

    Nidhogg specifically has an extreme hatred of Ishgard. He doesn't even simply want to wipe them out, he wants them to suffer. That's why the Dragonsong War was gone on for so long when he could've simply wiped them out. This is the primary reason why the attacks on Ishgard are so prominent.

    Bahamut (along with the rest of Meryicida) was enslaved, trapped, and tortured in Dalamud by the Allagans. In FCoB, the game had made it clear that Bahamut has been driven to insanity and blinded rage that by the time he did get out, he's indiscriminately attacking everything. It also does not help that this incarnation of Bahamut isn't even the true bahamut, but just a manifestation of him int the form of an Elder Primal, so it's not even clear if The Allagans needed to be involved to make him the way he is (since Tiamet, his sister, had commented that the Primal they had summoned was nothing but a "crude imitation" of the original)
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 08-09-2015 at 10:51 PM.

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