[Idea] Race: Allagan

[Bishop81]

Off topic but I have a theory ...

Are the Garleans an Allagan-created slave race?

Think about it. They are very proficient with Allagan technology but they can't use magic - the perfect slaves for the Allagans, smart enough to maintenance all their technology but can never overthrow them as magic would give the Allagans are huge edge over them; the Allagans would seem like gods to them.

Edit: That mark on their head could be part of a mechanism by which the Allagans control them.

[Nestama]

Are the Garleans an Allagan-created slave race?

Change race into culture and sure. Maybe.

[myahele]

If you reaarrange their name Garlean = Alagan r

[Rikkustrife]

If you reaarrange their name Garlean = Alagan r

Garlean only has two As though

[Grimmel]

It was obvious and it is obvious the Dragons know where they are, and it wouldn't be hard for Dragons to ask their multiple sources to create something to gain access to that Island, in fact there are creatures on it. That shield wasn't unstoppable.

The shield surrounding Azys Lla IS unstoppable. The creatures on Azys Lla have been there, been breeding there for over 5,000 years. I'm pretty damn sure if the shield surrounding the island wasn't unstoppable, Midgardsormr, Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr would have broken Tiamat out of there asap and put an end to the island itself. Please just do the MSQ and and use common sense. You're still making yourself look like a fool.

[Daranion]

Damn he really has a hard on for robot waifus doesn't he? Alright, I'll play ball. The story is built around members of the 6 races arriving in Eorzea. With me so far? Now, the very same cutscene plays for every player (legacy members exempted) We all arrive from out of town as adventurers alongside Alisae and Alphinaud. From the get go, if we were escaped Allagan creations, this scenario would not mesh well. Where did we come from?Not a big deal for the 6 races, we just showed up. For an Allagan creation, oh you better believe they'd need a super special snowflake cutscene marking their reactivation. Secondly, Allagan creations are already mysterious and usually dangerous. Thier damn record books are worth milliions and are hoarded like kings randoms (tomestone i n case you didn't realize it) So now you're telling me that a living walking automaton of Allagan design would go completely unmolested and infact you and their numbers are just completely accepted as functional members of Eorzean society? They'd be captured and ripped apart and sold for sultans fortunes day by day!. Third, regarding the blessing of light and Hydalyns involvement. As an artificial life form, I sincerely doubt the mothercrystal, giver of life and part creator of living beings would embue her light into a machine creature. Also, our echo abilities which make us immortal, why would they just keep inhabiting a android body when each time we die we respawn with a new body? If it's Allagan made, our echo would result in acquiring another flesh and blood body, removing the entire point of your race in the first place. The entire point of what makes us so special is our echo ability alongside our super high stat boost form the blessing of light. Our ability to cheat death, see into other peoples lives, and even inhabit the line between dimensions isn't something that a mechanical body would do. It just wouldn't keep. Fourth of all, Allagan creature or Allagan ourselves, we would be hated with a fury unbenowst to any other being on Eorzea when brought up to the dragons, plus it would absolutely destroy the Crystal Tower storyline. Plus I sincerely doubt a machine of the race responsible for the destruction and enslavement for 3/7 children would go over too well with Grandpa Middy.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

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Its a machine of the race, not the race itself. Elezens also did the same thing and he didn't seem fine. Androids can probably have souls if you made them a certain way and they could also be cybernetic people. Destroy it because its much better. <3

How do you know the body can't regenerate? Sort of like Necrons?

The shield surrounding Azys Lla IS unstoppable. The creatures on Azys Lla have been there, been breeding there for over 5,000 years. I'm pretty damn sure if the shield surrounding the island wasn't unstoppable, Midgardsormr, Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr would have broken Tiamat out of there asap and put an end to the island itself. Please just do the MSQ and and use common sense. You're still making yourself look like a fool.

Sorry I lost ya a long time ago when you know who died. If the shield is unstoppable and does not let anyone inside... then that is a fatal flaw. As soon as we went inside and pierced it we/everything living on the island would be dead due to not having air.

[Daranion]

No, Ishgardians, did that, not all Elezen. Also you're not addressing any of the points, you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and pulling things out of your ass to try and validate your suggestion. And Nek, come on man, at least try and use your brain at least a little bit. The shield very obviously let air through, because all the life support systems on those islands wouldn't be able to provide enough air. Magic doesn't have to be all or nothing. KIt most likely zapped any foreign being like birds and ships, but let air through.

[Hieral]

The Allagan Empire wasn't a race. It was a civilization that would of course be composed of many races.

[RiceisNice]

Off topic but I have a theory ...

Are the Garleans an Allagan-created slave race?

Think about it. They are very proficient with Allagan technology but they can't use magic - the perfect slaves for the Allagans, smart enough to maintenance all their technology but can never overthrow them as magic would give the Allagans are huge edge over them; the Allagans would seem like gods to them.

Edit: That mark on their head could be part of a mechanism by which the Allagans control them.

They aren't using Allagan Tech. The closest thing they ever used was Ultima Weapon and that was with the help of The Ascians just to even get the damn thing workig.

Sorry I lost ya a long time ago when you know who died. If the shield is unstoppable and does not let anyone inside... then that is a fatal flaw. As soon as we went inside and pierced it we/everything living on the island would be dead due to not having air.

I thought it was general knowledge that shields typically block unwanted things; Like in any other media or even our own immune systems. The point was, if you weren't an Allagan possess a key, or have a means of generating large amount of aether into a spike(and dragons don't meet either of those crtieras), you aren't getting through. Whats the point of even nit picking something like air being allowed through when we're speaking dragons?

I'll say this again, you're literally grasping at straws just to make a point in your argument. You're coming up with a lot of "but what ifs" which end up retconning the lore that's already in place and trying to attack points that honestly don't make a whole lot of sense.

Did the primal bahamut atack the allagans once he scape? ehh NO, he didnt care or notice the difference between llagans and orther eorzean people.

My point that dragons hate man or better said, they dont trust men, beacause of what happened with the allagans and Ishgard( that was a total remind for them ) Dragons kills withouth care, they dont care if you are Ishgard, allag or non of them.
If you guys did MSQ you would notice that the man and dragon started to war just when man showed up on cortheas before Shiva. Beacuse of all what man did, they dont trust them and even hate them. when I was on dravania, the dragons did care if I was an sihardian or not? no they tried to kill me anyway. "As long as it fits in the story it makes sense"


Thats my point, dragons man, I mean all spoken races.

and speaking of this possible new race, I dont care what is gonna be, if the manage to solve with the Auras, they will solve it again

Dragons have a mistrust of people due to what Ishgardians have done. There ia specific dragon in a side quest that got shot down by an Ishgardian and does not fully trust the player character. Does not necessarily mean they will go out of their way to fight with them, they simply do not have a reason to interact with them anymore (see Hraesvelgr)

Nidhogg specifically has an extreme hatred of Ishgard. He doesn't even simply want to wipe them out, he wants them to suffer. That's why the Dragonsong War was gone on for so long when he could've simply wiped them out. This is the primary reason why the attacks on Ishgard are so prominent.

Bahamut (along with the rest of Meryicida) was enslaved, trapped, and tortured in Dalamud by the Allagans. In FCoB, the game had made it clear that Bahamut has been driven to insanity and blinded rage that by the time he did get out, he's indiscriminately attacking everything. It also does not help that this incarnation of Bahamut isn't even the true bahamut, but just a manifestation of him int the form of an Elder Primal, so it's not even clear if The Allagans needed to be involved to make him the way he is (since Tiamet, his sister, had commented that the Primal they had summoned was nothing but a "crude imitation" of the original)