Speed Runs Suck

[Edewen]

The entire argument is invalidated by the gating se has been putting into dungeons for the past year. 2 groups at once is not a speed run, is simply efficient. It is doable in the bare minimum gear without much risk to the group. Unless your healer is a complete idiot or dcs, there is nothing to worry about.

Fractal. On way to first boss, you can ONLY get 2 packs at a time. On way to 2nd, the packs are too far spread to bother. On way to third you can only do one at a time.
Neverreap. On way to first boss, again only 2 packs. On way to 2nd, bees. On way to third, more bees.

Until a dungeon comes out again that is actually not designed to block speed runs, this thread is pointless whine about older content.

[Fevelle]

The entire argument is invalidated by the gating se has been putting into dungeons for the past year. 2 groups at once is not a speed run, is simply efficient. It is doable in the bare minimum gear without much risk to the group. Unless your healer is a complete idiot or dcs, there is nothing to worry about.

Yes, let's forget about respecting someone who doesn't feel secure with speedrunning a dungeon just because it's "efficient". Never forget you are on the Duty Finder, and the sole purpose of Duty Finder isn't giving you tomestones, it's making old players help new players.

[Malevicton]

Yes, let's forget about respecting someone who doesn't feel secure with speedrunning a dungeon just because it's "efficient". Never forget you are on the Duty Finder, and the sole purpose of Duty Finder isn't giving you tomestones, it's making old players help new players.

There's no "sole purpose". There's no demographic more important than the other. DF is there to put people into groups. That's it. What happens after that is the group's business, but SE didn't give some transcendental authority to any specific type of behavior.