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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Moving forward, gear that is introduced from notorious monsters and other such content will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system for that loot. With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that specific piece of gear anymore going forward. (For example, please see [dev1016] where it shows the change from a Hempen Doublet to a Hempen Doublet Vest) So only the currently existing versions that exist prior to the change will feature "Optimal Rank" features.

    *Updated: 9/1/11 5:14pm; bold text is new and incorrect text has been strikethrough'd
    kind of a lame update, back to any tard wearing high rank gear because they can, and low end gear still costing out the ass because noone wants to make it, or DoL bother getting those materials.
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  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    mmm JP Reps post today looks like it will be applied to crafted gears as well, will have some that has no restrictions but for battle or instance raid type situations will be more equipments with rank requirements rather than optimal rank...
    But that completely disregards what Bayohne said >.> "Battle or instance raid type situations will be more equipments with rank requirements" to me sounds more like dungeon drop gear will have rank requirements.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    But that completely disregards what Bayohne said >.> "Battle or instance raid type situations will be more equipments with rank requirements" to me sounds more like dungeon drop gear will have rank requirements.
    I'll just copy/paste the translation lol
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    Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/8S30f

    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    皆さん、こんばんは。
    Good Evening Everyone,

    装備適正ランクについてあらためてプロデューサーの吉田と方針を確認してきました。
    Checked once again with Producer Yoshida regarding goals for equipment's 'optimal rank'

    今後追加される新しい装備品については、基本的に装備できる条件が、クラス【専用】ランク【必須】になっていきます。
    ただし追加される装備品すべてが【専用】【必須】になるわけではなく、装備条件のない装備品ももちろん追加していきます。
    In general for future included equipment will have 'class specific', 'required rank'.
    However this doesn't mean all equipment becoming 'specific' or 'required', there will of course be equipment that has no restrictions.


    たとえば街中で着る場合には誰でも装備できる装備品で、
    バトルに行く、レイドに挑戦するなどの場合は【専用】【必須】の装備を付けるなど、
    メリハリを付けるようにしていきます。
    For example will make within cities have equipment anyone can equip, and for going to battle, or challenging in raids equipping 'specific', 'required' equipment. Will add variety.
    It doesn't say anything about NM drops or such content equipment being with rank requirements (probably will have though, and I'm OK on this part since it makes sense) but also says when going into battle, or contents (like raid) they want more equipments that have rank requirements, and for general use to wear in cities and stuff they will still have optimal rank equipment.

    To me that sounds like if you want to play dress up we'll have those but for going into battle you will have to put on rank required gear, which is fine but same time means I would have to carry more gear if I want to play high level job first then switch to low rank gear.

    Oh well as long as they don't put rank/class requirements on subligar I'm ok... I guess (j/k)
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 09-03-2011 at 02:54 AM.

  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    kind of a lame update, back to any tard wearing high rank gear because they can, and low end gear still costing out the ass because noone wants to make it, or DoL bother getting those materials.
    The reason people wear high level gear (30-50) when low level is quadfold

    1. They already have a level 50 and dont want to bother changing gear when changing class for a few leves.
    2. They dont want to spend money on gear between 1-30 because you litterally are in that level range for less then 5 hours (Speed runs have people getting to 30 in 1 Leve Reset)
    3. The material lists requirements are shit so making them yourself sucks.
    4. The material lists requirements are shit so crafters overcharge for them.

    Its not always because the person is retarded.
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  5. #355
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    Id have to agree with 1.
    As for 2, not everyone is in some kind of uber speed run sp grind linkshell, shrug.
    3 & 4, well thats your personal opinion~
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    Triary had a chance to confirm with Yoshida yesterday about all of this discussion going on regarding Optimal Rank gear, etc.

    New gear that will be introduced in the future will move towards having an exclusive class and required rank requirements. However, not all gear will have an required rank or exclusive class, and new gear without requirements will also be added. For example, we will make distinctions on the type of gear itself, such as gear that is worn in town will have no requirements, and gear for battles and raid challenges will have an exclusive class and necessary rank.

    Hopefully this gives a better insight into the direction we are heading.
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Triary had a chance to confirm with Yoshida yesterday about all of this discussion going on regarding Optimal Rank gear, etc.

    New gear that will be introduced in the future will move towards having an exclusive class and required rank requirements. However, not all gear will have an required rank or exclusive class, and new gear without requirements will also be added. For example, we will make distinctions on the type of gear itself, such as gear that is worn in town will have no requirements, and gear for battles and raid challenges will have an exclusive class and necessary rank.

    Hopefully this gives a better insight into the direction we are heading.
    It does. Marlpony.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Triary had a chance to confirm with Yoshida yesterday about all of this discussion going on regarding Optimal Rank gear, etc.

    New gear that will be introduced in the future will move towards having an exclusive class and required rank requirements. However, not all gear will have an required rank or exclusive class, and new gear without requirements will also be added. For example, we will make distinctions on the type of gear itself, such as gear that is worn in town will have no requirements, and gear for battles and raid challenges will have an exclusive class and necessary rank.

    Hopefully this gives a better insight into the direction we are heading.
    So pretty much the idea i give few post back not bad having two type of gear this sound great to me this mean if your not the RANK,Class you can't just wear it for looks.
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  9. #359
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    It would really help if they showed the actual change in stats that would occur when you put on the gear based on your level. If people could see that they'd be losing going down in a particular stat before they even purchased the item, they wouldn't bother with it. As it stands, I have to buy it, put it on and compare my new stats to the ones I had wearing my previous armor.
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    Only problem is having even more stuff to keep/carry around..
    I did like the armour working with the armoury system.. but I can see the point in making the gear more classic mmo style for people.

    At least it means we might get some more better looking armour some time soon.
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