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  1. #1091
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    Dunncan's Avatar
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    Dunncan Pendragon
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post
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    In my group, me and my tank always stack for resin on the left side of the boss within melee range. As it's already expected, what I do is hit my add once as it spawns and move to where we'll stack, stil hiting the boss, só I wont kill my add too soon. As soon the resin AoE goes off, I'll just move to the laser, plenty of time to kill the add. Everything is just fast and clean, and I stil have one flank and the boss rear to hit positionals. The only exception is when the laser spawn right where we usually stack. In that case, we stack on the right side of the boss for resin.
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    Last edited by Dunncan; 07-28-2015 at 11:19 PM.

  2. #1092
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    Mibhas's Avatar
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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Since -10% STR/INT from Dragon Kick/Virus is considered a -10% Damage output during things like T13 etc, is it safe to assume +100ish STR from Draconion Potion HQ when we have about 1000 base STR is approximately a 10% damage increase for those 15 seconds?
    No, since the Potion won't increase Weapon Damage or your secondaries.
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  3. #1093
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Light Seeker
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 67
    % damage output goes in a different spot than the +100 STR. In the case of Heavy Thrust vs a potion for instance, basically the difference is something like:

    (((WD * somemultiplier) + ((STR +100 from potion) * somemultiplier) * SOME MATH) * 1.15 from Heavy Thrust) * more math.... = damage

    NOTE: Not the actual calculations. Just an example obviously for effect
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  4. #1094
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mibhas View Post
    No, since the Potion won't increase Weapon Damage or your secondaries.
    So why is it that people say Dragon Kick/Virus roughly decreases the mob's outgoing dmg by ~10% when they are -10% to primary stats (which is about how much HQ Draconion Potion of STR increases a i190 DRG's STR by)
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  5. #1095
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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    So why is it that people say Dragon Kick/Virus roughly decreases the mob's outgoing dmg by ~10% when they are -10% to primary stats (which is about how much HQ Draconion Potion of STR increases a i190 DRG's STR by)
    Because mobs most likely don't have Weapon Damage, Det, and SkS.
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  6. #1096
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Dorian Makai
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I know that going weapon first for new tomes is always the way to go. But being as i'll be all 190 save for chest piece and one ring, i'm so tempted to go with the 200 chest piece, and go after the weapon next round, just so I have even more of a boost for A1S tonight. Is that worth it, or should I still just be patient and get the weapon next week?
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  7. #1097
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Marik Landzaat
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    The thing people need to keep in mind is that increasing ilvl does not necessarily result in higher gains. You need to consider the stat weights and Weapon Damage blows every stat away. The weapon will most likely be the biggest increase for you.

    Take a look at the pieces you are interested and use the current stat weights to calculate which will be the biggest bang for your tomes.
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  8. #1098
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    TheKingSlayer's Avatar
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    Older King
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
    I know that going weapon first for new tomes is always the way to go. But being as i'll be all 190 save for chest piece and one ring, i'm so tempted to go with the 200 chest piece, and go after the weapon next round, just so I have even more of a boost for A1S tonight. Is that worth it, or should I still just be patient and get the weapon next week?
    Fight the temptation Frodo, don't go for the ring (and chest piece), get the weeeeeaaaaaapon!

    Seriously though, the 200 weapon is going to be way better than the chest, especially for those end game dps checks.
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    Friends don't let friends Dragoon

  9. #1099
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Get weapon, or you'll have a bad time.
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  10. #1100
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    Dorian Makai
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Hnnnnnngh~! The temptation. Seeing everything 190 cept for my chest... and then seeing that pretty lil dragoon body. Damn it, tho I know you guys are right.
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