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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Our SCH pulled it off with Fey Covenant, apparently.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I dunno. That one piece of gear causes your health to go up by around 225 in party with food. Not sure how tight that kill would be in terms of how much damage it'll do to you, but I've very rarely seen a survival with less hp than that. While I'm all for those lucky saves with messed up mechanics or what have you, I'm a firm believer in the fact that progression should always be about learning NOT to screw things up rather than scrambling to fix regular mistakes.

    Brought this up last night when someone mentioned how we could just let one Piston in the last group hit the electricity since we CAN survive it. You shouldn't plan for - or gear yourself toward - mistakes. You should plan for things to go right. 86 crit is a huge swing to lose for the off-chance you could maybe survive a botched mechanic, imo, when the fight is already a super tight dps check. But, I mean, personal preference. xD
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    I dunno. That one piece of gear causes your health to go up by around 225 in party with food. Not sure how tight that kill would be in terms of how much damage it'll do to you, but I've very rarely seen a survival with less hp than that. While I'm all for those lucky saves with messed up mechanics or what have you, I'm a firm believer in the fact that progression should always be about learning NOT to screw things up rather than scrambling to fix regular mistakes.

    Brought this up last night when someone mentioned how we could just let one Piston in the last group hit the electricity since we CAN survive it. You shouldn't plan for - or gear yourself toward - mistakes. You should plan for things to go right. 86 crit is a huge swing to lose for the off-chance you could maybe survive a botched mechanic, imo, when the fight is already a super tight dps check. But, I mean, personal preference. xD
    Have you seen Carnage? It's the most random mechanic in the game, even practicing it for weeks can still allow a slip up here or there if the spawns and angle are truly ludicrous. Not something to be relied on but I as BLM love being able to survive a botched one.

    About A3S, I don't think you CAN survive a Piston going into the water, even if you "survive" it. The boss gets a stack. Good luck for the next 7 minutes!
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R80Q

    Is this BiS for A4S ? A friend of mine is arguing ESO weapon is BiS because you need a minimum of 620 sskp to maintain 3 geirk/min but I thought 2.41 gcd is enough for that ?
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R80Q

    Is this BiS for A4S ? A friend of mine is arguing ESO weapon is BiS because you need a minimum of 620 sskp to maintain 3 geirk/min but I thought 2.41 gcd is enough for that ?
    http://puu.sh/k70lO/cb1304c775.png
    The set in what you linked.

    http://puu.sh/k70ng/9ae68e7380.png
    Best in slot gear.

    The difference in weight is less than 1. The difference in stat spread is massive.
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    Ragnarok
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Skillspeed Softcaps:
    Maximum : 652
    Minimum : 590
    That's from the fourth post on the first page. Around 590 onward you reach 2.41, which I can confirm is enough to reach 3 Geirskogul per minute and/or double Geirskogul under B4B.
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    rickyguo's Avatar
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    Yan Dere
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    Lancer Lv 60
    alright boys i210 back to lalafell



    see you guys next raid tier afk
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    alright boys i210 back to lalafell



    see you guys next raid tier afk
    Congrats Yan!

    I'm still rocking i190 weapon, 210 everything else. Got MCH gun our first clear, maybe I go from i190 to 210 next week? Join the ranks of the big boy 210ers.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 09-11-2015 at 01:52 PM.

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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    And here I am still trying to find a raid group...
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Wow! No more spending months trying to get the weapon this time Yan :P Good job hun!

    Dunno if it's just me but raid teams seem to be rather scarce this time round? Pretty sure coils had much more attention/demand...

    And yeah Jack i agree My group is working on A3S now - only been in once so still mastering the debuff handover at the start lol What would you guys say would be a decent HP pool to aim for? Also, has the Acc cap been narrowed down any or is the 639 still the best to go for?
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