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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu98763 View Post
    Could you please explain what you mean by numerical cap? I'm a bit confused
    That's the soft-cap of skillspeed before things start going a bit "odd" and skillspeeds diminishing returns kicks in for Dragoons.

    Basically, don't go over that number unless a mechanic in an encounter requires us to do so, or if gear inflation forces us to go above it.

    This takes us to exactly 2.3901 GCD. Anymore is a waste and a TP hog.

    I think in Ariyala you can do such a thing... Mind you, I've not seen all the gear yet.
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    so in theory how much skillspeed do you need to do do IDC4>TTT4>TTT4 again lol

    its looking like a fun gimmick to try
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    https://mega.nz/#!ssVxTZZD!s6iAuj1aO...DxiRv8EI3m1RXI

    Link for my spreadsheet. Update it. A quick inspection looks like I may of broke the skillspeed section before I uploaded it 2 weeks ago... oops

    Anyway, the numerical Skillspeed cap is 652 if you want to use Ariyala.
    Is this it based on Ariyala? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QYMT
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    Quote Originally Posted by bj0rN View Post
    Is this it based on Ariyala? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QYMT
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    https://mega.nz/#!ssVxTZZD!s6iAuj1aO...DxiRv8EI3m1RXI

    Link for my spreadsheet. Update it. A quick inspection looks like I may of broke the skillspeed section before I uploaded it 2 weeks ago... oops

    Anyway, the numerical Skillspeed cap is 652 if you want to use Ariyala.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    skillspeed amount seems pretty excessive

    maybe something like this would be more practical for a4s accuracy? since a1s already needs like 570 or so

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QZTK
    I thought the estimated SKS needed is 652 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    SO CLOSE TO 1K!!
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    H IDC4 P TTT4
    H TTT4 P IDC4
    H TTT4 P IDC4 ...

    Which is 2.15-2.13GCD for it to be a DPS gain over what er currently do.

    1230ish skillspeed.

    You could get like a whole load of people with Selene/AST buffing you to do something extreme which might allow you to do 4GKs per minute as you're saving 1GCD.
    H IDC4 P TTT4 TTT4 is what you want to do.
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    so the only way is to get a pocket ast and scholar

    oh well w
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    Did I just see 700 DET...

    Anyway, I need to update the weights for this ilvl unless sunny wants to do it for me as he knows how my sheet works?

    Or Panda can do it as long as he changes the reference to Strength and not against WD.

    EDIT: Oh no. I just realised we (well you guys bwuahaha) need to figure out accuracy caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Did I just see 700 DET...


    Anyway, I need to update the weights for this ilvl unless sunny wants to do it for me as he knows how my sheet works?

    Or Panda can do it as long as he changes the reference to Strength and not against WD.
    Will the weight affect the BIS and all? But ignoring accuracy, seems like that's the "BIS" for now.

    Also just want to check, how much does the SKS affect the DOT abilities since the SKS is up to 655 now.
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