Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Humorless]

I use Foresight instead. The only way I would take that skill is either if the cooldown was lowered to at most a minute, or if it could be used whenever. I still question the developers using it as a cross-class skill considering Misery's End and Assassinate cannot be cross-classed...

...what's the point of foresight? Keen flurry is superior.

How much dps should you be doing as a MNK on a single target in Alex 1 Savage?

On a single target? Faust? 1200 or so.


The fight itself is not single target, but a kill run should end up with a melee at 900+ at least. Depending on party setup/pots/food/luck you can reach 1100, but you should get a kill before you master the fight to that extent.

[RyuDragnier]

You use foresight on what exactly? Throughout all of 2.0 and all the 3.0 level 60 fights, there is only one fight where a monk would take unavoidable physical damage where mitigation would be useful(t13's earthshakers). Anything else you could be hit by is magical, which foresight doesn't work on, or avoidable.

I've seen a lot of tanks who are bad enough to where I steal aggro constantly in dungeons, or the tank dies and I end up having to serve as backup tank long enough for the tank to get rezzed. Foresight is for those moments. Plus I actually forget to use it when I actually have Mercy Stroke on.

Most relevant fights you can use Mercy Stroke anywhere from 1 - 5+ times, depending on the encounter. A1S, you should be able to get 3 minimum, A2S as often as it's off CD, A3S at least 3 times, who knows about A4S. Past raids you'd usually get 3 or more.

You're giving up 600+ potency by sacrificing it, and more than once it'll be the difference between an add enraging somehow or you killing it. Please switch to using Mercy Stroke, for the sake of your team mates.

I haven't started doing Savage mode yet, the FC leader's subscription is currently up and he doesn't get paid until later this week. I'll probably start using it then...but that's only if people are good, otherwise we'll never get that low. Such as those 2 weeks of trying to clear Bismarck EX, where the only time I ever saw under 20% was the one attempt where we cleared it.

[dragonflie]

As someone on Sav A1, I'd like to add that Foresight lowers the dmg of Prey on me from around 3.4k to about 2.3k a hit (it hits 6 times). I've tried keen flurry also, and noticed that it never parried once, even with 40%. It's possible the move is not affected by parry. I've yet to put much use to bloodbath (how much does it heal usually for you guys?)

[Royin]

On a single target? Faust? 1200 or so.
The fight itself is not single target, but a kill run should end up with a melee at 900+ at least. Depending on party setup/pots/food/luck you can reach 1100, but you should get a kill before you master the fight to that extent.

Alright I'm good then. For some reason people are claiming they deal 1400-1500 dps on just Faust, but I'm fairly certain the add up the AoE damage.

[Sleigh]

As someone on Sav A1, I'd like to add that Foresight lowers the dmg of Prey on me from around 3.4k to about 2.3k a hit (it hits 6 times). I've tried keen flurry also, and noticed that it never parried once, even with 40%. It's possible the move is not affected by parry. I've yet to put much use to bloodbath (how much does it heal usually for you guys?)

I'm inclined to believe you had a Succor on the 2.3k hit. Foresight shouldn't have that type of mitigation, in any situation, unless it's seriously stronger at level 60 defense than in ARR.

[Ricdeau]

Alright I'm good then. For some reason people are claiming they deal 1400-1500 dps on just Faust, but I'm fairly certain the add up the AoE damage.

Anyone getting 1400-1500 on Faust with current gearing (~i185-187) is getting AoE splash. On a solid run with little to no AoE splash you could can get 1300+ with some good crits, but not 1400+.

[Powercow]

I'm inclined to believe you had a Succor on the 2.3k hit. Foresight shouldn't have that type of mitigation, in any situation, unless it's seriously stronger at level 60 defense than in ARR.

Foresight for tanks is floating around a ~12% damage reduction on physical attacks, last I checked. I seriously doubt that it somehow reduces damage taken for monks by 30%. Foresight + fists of earth and the boss having Eye for an Eye or Virus or something would make sense.

[Humorless]

As someone on Sav A1, I'd like to add that Foresight lowers the dmg of Prey on me from around 3.4k to about 2.3k a hit (it hits 6 times). I've tried keen flurry also, and noticed that it never parried once, even with 40%. It's possible the move is not affected by parry. I've yet to put much use to bloodbath (how much does it heal usually for you guys?)

Bloodbath is amazing. You heal for 300-400 per skill plus about 100 from autoattacks. Over the 15s it adds up to 3k+ HP healed without cooldowns. If you happen to use it when IR/HF/EF are up you'll get a ton of HP back. You get to be somewhat careless in A2 savage and get cleaved by a doll without healers yelling at you.

[Craiger]

If there are adds, Mercy Stroke is very good, and even if there are none, why wouldn't you use it? It's free damage, and there are nothing else to cross class that's does anything useful.

Foresight does almost nothing for you, and in most cases that tiny amount of increased defense doesn't even get used. Using it in dungeons when tanks fail is a pretty lame excuse... It won't make a big difference even there actually, and why not change it to Mercy Stroke when raiding if you really want Foresight in dungeons?

Also, yeah, Bloodbath should be used a lot more by players... It together with Second Wind can save you from certain death in a lot of situations.

[Ririndo]

So... About Monk 3.0 AoE.. Has the word of Monks being amazing in AoE still not spread out?

Yesterday on a A2 run, ppl were trying to force me to get on the walker because and I quote "monk has shitty aoe"
Thanks to Invigorate + Puri I have almost none TP issues there (only last phase where I have to use 2x Chakra after every GL refresh so I can use puri again) ofc if there is an AST present the TP issue is gone.

But Im kinda wondering, since in A2 I can easly compete with BLM (Ninja, DRG, MCN and BRD AoE are nothing compared to me) and the only class that is unreachable is SMN but thats not a suprise. So yeah, have I always been with failers in the group and Monk AoE isnt that great..?