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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet57 View Post
    Soooo, whats the best opener now?
    Here's what I do. Not sure if the best though.

    5 chakra stacks + Form shift into Coerul > Demo > PB > Snap > B4B > Snap > pot+IR > DK > T. Snake > Howling Fist > Snap Punch > ToD > Steel Peak > Boot > Elixir Field > True Strike > S. Tackle > Demo > F. Chakra > normal rotation.

    I've also started incorporating meditation if I have > 4 secs on DK since Meditation has 1.2 recasts. It is very possible to do meditation every 3 gcds after snap/demo though with the duration of GL 3 increased to 14 secs and would almost encourage it.
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet57 View Post
    Soooo, whats the best opener now?
    Currently Ossom's. And marxam's just pretty much stated the early 3.0 opener.
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    Last edited by monchkinz; 08-31-2015 at 04:44 PM.

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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    When it comes to buff management, the great thing about our buffs is they share the same CD length as many of our other oGCDS. So our openers work out really well in lining up our buff. As long as you don't hold Elixer Drive or Howling Fists, it will be up for every single Internal Release (our strongest buff). Other than that, we are unable to line up B4B with 2 Demolishes anymore unless we are willing to clip (I am definitely willing to clip at like sub 5 seconds, I just haven't looked into B4B Demo X 2 yet).
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    Akasha Veoh
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Using Meditation in your rotation is a dps loss and you should never do it.
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    thats what fracture is for

    high skill speed (750-800)/fey wind opener

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q-I8QuBsTc

    notation

    Form Shift Coeurl - (Shoulder Tackle) - Demolish - (Perfect Balance) - Snap Punch (BFB) - Snap Punch (Internal Release) - Dragon Kick (STR pot) - Twin Snakes (Delayed Elixir Field) - Bootshine/True Strike (Steel Peak) - Touch of Death (Howling Fist) - Bootshine (The Forbidden Chakra) - True Strike - Demolish - Dragon Kick - Fracture - Twin Snakes - Snap Punch

    bootshine/true instead of the last snap punch in regular opener, fracture before 2nd twin snakes since it'll be the last GCD with str pot and bfb up. with high enough sksp you won't drop twin snakes anyway
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 08-31-2015 at 05:32 AM.

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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    Ossum's opener is pretty good. Did 1351 in a 3 min parse(black truffle+xpot+party buff), but it fell to 1332 after i moved away from the dummy. I think it was littered with crits, though.
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    Last edited by Phireblast; 08-31-2015 at 09:16 PM.

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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Monk Lv 80
    I didn't use Fracture at all. People here constantly say it's a DPS increase, but i'm just not seeing the difference even with application rules applied.
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    I didn't use Fracture at all. People here constantly say it's a DPS increase, but i'm just not seeing the difference even with application rules applied.
    I would like to repeat that fracture is situational at best. If your using a mini window parser you probably won't see the difference at all and most likely see your dps fall too since it is a DoT you will not see the damage spike. I try to use it all the time to time my other DoTs but that's just me.
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 80
    You likely wont be able to notice the difference in parse numbers. The increase is so small that it falls within the typical variance of a parse. Its more of a calculated DPS increase, and to also help other DoTs line up better and prevent clipping.
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Fracture is about 0.8% improvement on GCDs if used only as a spacer (and only used properly). It's about 1.2% improvement on GCDs if used as often as possible. (Note that these figures are derived using a probably incorrect SS DoT buff estimation). GCDs are approximately 84% of your non-AA DPS. AAs are like... 26ish% (I don't know about theoretical performance there dummy; I'm just basing that off my static monk's Alex performance). The EV is on the magnitude of about 5~6 DPS.

    So yes, you are not going to notice the difference. Regardless, it is an extra DoT, it has more total potency than your average rotational GCD, and it makes more out of your Demolish ticks if you know what you're doing.
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