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  1. #741
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    No splash by default on Faust. Not possible. I agree with TheMax1087
    It's not impossible. It's unlikely, but not impossible. As we verified by pulling up damage only done to Faust.
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  2. #742
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Just curious, but did you have a dragoon or ninja in your party too? I did 1484 on Faust with no splash and I was a bit sloppy on the fight. I was hoping to see some people breaking 1500 on him near or slightly above my ilevel. I was getting around 1630 in A2S as well, but a lot of that can vary based on comp and how much raid DPS you are doing. My raid isn't super high on the DPS spectrum other than myself.
    Yeah we had a DRG. Battle Litany + Internal Release is just silly.
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  3. #743
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    That's not what you said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    It's certainly not impossible because that's what I did last night. I agree that typically you will get splash, but I did not. 3 of us all showed the same thing and were surprised that I got no splash, but this isn't the first time nor will it be the last time I do that fight without getting splash. Also as others pointed out you can absolutely check your damage on Faust alone too even if you do get splash. Our offtank just pulls the adds off to the side.

    Faust is a pretty short fight so if you get good crits you can ride the DPS high before leveling out. I'm pretty certain that others can vouch that I am not going to post up some numbers that I've made up. By the way I asked the other person if they had another melee and forgot to state that I had a dragoon for Battle Lit...oh that sweet, sweet Battle Lit on a short fight is nuts.
    So you weren't talking about checking for Faust alone, if you were then that sentence wouldn't read like. You're saying you did XYZ Dmg on the normal parse and are getting 0% splash damage. A little different. Not saying you can't do the damage you did, I'm just saying 0% splash dmg sounds super false.
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  4. #744
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    That's not what you said.



    So you weren't talking about checking for Faust alone, if you were then that sentence wouldn't read like. You're saying you did XYZ Dmg on the normal parse and are getting 0% splash damage. A little different. Not saying you can't do the damage you did, I'm just saying 0% splash dmg sounds super false.
    I did no splash on the adds that run. I also said our tank pulls the adds to the side so they are not in range unless he happens to be running by. We all checked to make sure and sure enough I did no damage to the adds on that run. I'm not saying I never do splash to them because I certainly do, but just not on this run.

    I don't know what's confusing about what I said. I clearly said "Our offtank just pulls the adds off to the side." So that in itself lends itself to reducing splash damage down a lot so couple this with the built in AoE being on a 30 second and 60 second CD you can start to see where it is absolutely possible for things to line up so that you have no splash.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 08-27-2015 at 06:42 AM. Reason: Edited for clarity.

  5. #745
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    1484 sounds realistic for a mid to high i190s mnk. especially if you have a beneficial group composition(litany, ast card, etc.) and a good crit rate.
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  6. #746
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    Just an example. There is likely room for improvement too.



    I believe encDPS is the accepted number
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  7. #747
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    Sad to say, I must admit I was wrong on my numbers. I was going by memory and it failed me. It was 1387.2 that I did and got no splash on any adds. I did break 1400 on Faust alone in another parse, but not as high as I thought I remembered it and there was a little splash on that fight damage as there usually is. Anyway, on to the 0 splash fight. I will also say this is not the first time I've had 0 splash as well. We all have to remember not everyone does the fight the same way. Our offtank pulls the adds away towards a wall and will occasionally cross over to the other side to grab an add. It's just what worked for us and we never saw a point in changing that for Faust.




    This wasn't the best run for me, but I was having some pretty nice technical difficulties last night.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 08-27-2015 at 07:39 AM. Reason: Posted wrong picture

  8. #748
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    29% Crit, that right there is why having a dragoon around is so great right now.


    Edit: Is there also a nin in your group?
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    Last edited by Hitoseijuro; 08-27-2015 at 08:57 AM.

  9. #749
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    29% Crit, that right there is why having a dragoon around is so great right now.


    Edit: Is there also a nin in your group?
    No, monk, dragoon, black mage, and bard. I want our bard to go machinist. The 1484 I got was one with splash, and I was a bit over a bit over 1400 on just Faust for that one. However, I agree Battle Lit is awesome, and doing a triple melee comp for a fight like Faust would be pretty awesome just to see the numbers if anything.
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  10. #750
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    Lilyth, if i may, can i possibly get your rotation on that with buffs/ogcds?

    Ive been trying out Ossom's rotation currently to see how it pans out versus 3.0 and im liking it thus far the buffs down the line sync very well with demo. I didnt like 3.0s buff lay out after the opener my ir/b4b didnt line up with demo at times unless i wait 1 sec at times(nope). I still have test more and write down how the buffs mesh with everything.
    Sure.

    (PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

    Here I line up B4B/IR/Pot one GCD later. The reason for it is I don't like the idea of "wasting" one GCD with the Pot's buff on a not fully buffed Twin Snakes. It also ends right in time for the last Demo to get buffed by it.
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