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    Zami Terrechant
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    so i can put all this crap to rest about fitting fracture in 100% of the time without altering rotation, in order to hit that mark, you need to be able to fit 8 skills in, within a 15 seconds window.
    this requires a GCD of 1.875

    without greased lightning this gives you a base GCD of 2.20

    i shouldn't have to tell anything this currently isn't possible, but i'll do it anyway
    using dervys skillspeed model of GCD = 2.50256-(0.01*(SS-354)/26.5)
    we can work out that we get to 2.20 gcd when we have 1156 skill speed

    edit: corrected skill speed calculation
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    Last edited by Zamii; 07-20-2015 at 05:51 AM.

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    I just tested it again and after looking closely DK falls off during the animation of DK sometimes whether this is a dps loss or evens the bonus of using fracture out since DK may sometimes not benefit from DK I dont know atm. Also it's not that i'm actively trying to get as much Skill speed as i have it's just what my current mix of law/ alexander story mode gear has, and also to clarify i'm not trying to prove a point or disprove someone else's point. I'm genuinely just trying to do the max possible dps that I can do which is why I think some of us are here =).
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    Inoko Yamaniko
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    Since I have not seen anyone ask about food yet, what do you think the best food from HW is best for raiding as a monk since there is no new crit/det food.
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    Last edited by InokoYamaniko; 07-20-2015 at 07:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InokoYamaniko View Post
    Since I have not seen anyone ask about food yet, what do you think the best food from HW is best for raiding as a monk since there is no new crit/det food.
    long time no see inoko

    anyways, currently im betting on using baked pipira pira, which is crit/acc
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    Zell Dinch't
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    I've been using Deep Fried Okeanis, or Morel Salad. DFO gives SkS, VIT, DET; Morel gives DET, VIT, SkS
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    I remember when I told you guys I was using fracture a lot. Not just Zamii said I was wrong, couple of you others in here too. Funny how things change. Either way glad you guys are seeing why I use it. Two things I look for when you using fracture. Is demo 4-5secs left and is ToD at 10+ seconds, if the answer to both is yes, fracture. That is about the only time I use it, no reason to over use fracture and suffer TP lose or rotational errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    I remember when I told you guys I was using fracture a lot. Not just Zamii said I was wrong, couple of you others in here too. Funny how things change. Either way glad you guys are seeing why I use it. Two things I look for when you using fracture. Is demo 4-5secs left and is ToD at 10+ seconds, if the answer to both is yes, fracture. That is about the only time I use it, no reason to over use fracture and suffer TP lose or rotational errors.
    guilty as charged :P
    took me longer than i like to admit to notice the effect it had with the new demo timer

    although to be completely fair, i only debated the TP cost, i never denied it was a dps gain from simply using it.
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Quote Originally Posted by InokoYamaniko View Post
    Since I have not seen anyone ask about food yet, what do you think the best food from HW is best for raiding as a monk since there is no new crit/det food.
    I brought this up in the old thread, but I ended up answering it myself:

    Black Truffle Risotto

    You can't cap with any of the new food. HQ will put you a few points over 2.0 food, but our relationship to 3.0 food is very similar to how the 2-star 2.0 foods were at ARR launch. Wait for raid gear stat weights before even considering DET/SS/CHR food (but the new ACC food, grilled sweetfish, is super cheap and super effective if you need ACC).
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    I haven't seen anyone breakdown Monk weights like Dervy has for Dragoon so without knowing exact statweights it would be hard to say. Black Truffle HQ still shouldnt be bad. With most of the new HW food we don't have the gearstats to max out the HQ versions of the food right now.
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    Ossom Possom
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    You don't need a lot of SS to use fracture. I have 534, You just have to make sure you don't apply it in the same cycle as Touch of Death.

    Don't try and keep it up 100% of the time though, its a TP loss skill.

    Dps gain but TP loss.
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