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  1. #51
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    Wait a minute, are you saying that tanks don't use VIT gear on content that is even or higher to their levels? I main PLD and use STR accessories all the time... on content I out-gear. Using all STR accessories so early is really dumb, maybe if you're in a bomb-ass static with healers that can handle it but if you're going into Alexander, or Bis EX/Rav EX party finders, take that shit off holy shit.
    the problem is tanks use str gear while lvling , wich means ur not over geared thus making it harder for the healers , ive seen a post a while ago where a healer complained about a drk in library with 9k hp instantly dying after 2 very fast hard hits.

    well i for myself if i see another str tank in dungeons , im gona ask them politlely to switch to vit gear.
    If they reply to me with some shitty comment , im just gona leave or ask them to leave :P
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  2. #52
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    the problem is tanks use str gear while lvling , wich means ur not over geared thus making it harder for the healers , ive seen a post a while ago where a healer complained about a drk in library with 9k hp instantly dying after 2 very fast hard hits.

    well i for myself if i see another str tank in dungeons , im gona ask them politlely to switch to vit gear.
    If they reply to me with some shitty comment , im just gona leave or ask them to leave :P
    We use strength gear while leveling so that the content that we have to do on our lonesome (daily hunts, msq, side quests, etc) doesn't take 3 years while we stand there beating the mob with a wet noodle.

    I don't see any reason to spend extra money on a vitality set when I'm just going to outlevel it anyway.
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  3. #53
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    If you want to play a DD so much, play a DD.
    Just don't forget, tanks are there to get hit and make things easier on the healers and DDs. That's our role. It's nice if you can put in the damage when you need to, but that's the role of the DD's. And they will always be better at it.

    If you have a party that knows you and can deal with it, mix it up all you want, but if it's with new people, you're just going to make it harder on everyone.
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  4. #54
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    Greven's Avatar
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    We use strength gear while leveling so that the content that we have to do on our lonesome (daily hunts, msq, side quests, etc) doesn't take 3 years while we stand there beating the mob with a wet noodle.

    I don't see any reason to spend extra money on a vitality set when I'm just going to outlevel it anyway.
    The problem is not you using your STR gear for your things, I do the same. It's the general idea STR > VIT that's spreading out and making the average healing with pugs a nightmare!
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  5. #55
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    Eien Lightspark
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    If you want to play a DD so much, play a DD.
    Just don't forget, tanks are there to get hit and make things easier on the healers and DDs. That's our role. It's nice if you can put in the damage when you need to, but that's the role of the DD's. And they will always be better at it.

    If you have a party that knows you and can deal with it, mix it up all you want, but if it's with new people, you're just going to make it harder on everyone.
    Make a huge poster with this and pin it to your damn wall, that is the truth man.
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  6. #56
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    Promyvion Vahzl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    If you don't understand why popping two major cool downs at the same time in a long duration fight with multiple rounds of combat is a bad idea, don't tell what tanks should or shouldn't be doing. Hell, if you don't understand why it's a bad idea, I don't want you healing either.
    Yes God forbid the 13K HP tank getting hit with 8K tank busters or pulling 3 pulls in a dungeon use not one but TWO cooldowns simultaneously. That'd be heresy!
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    i kan reed gud. - Lieutenant Obvious
    When will she be promoted to Captain?
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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    Yes God forbid the 13K HP tank getting hit with 8K tank busters or pulling 3 pulls in a dungeon use not one but TWO cooldowns simultaneously. That'd be heresy!
    You think you're being sarcastic but you just keep showing that you either fail at reading comprehesion or blinded by your vendetta and didn't bother to read the post you're replying to.
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    Perceval Haizen
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    Yes God forbid the 13K HP tank getting hit with 8K tank busters or pulling 3 pulls in a dungeon use not one but TWO cooldowns simultaneously. That'd be heresy!
    I would use Foresight and Awareness together, but never rampart and sentinel. The only time in 2.x when tanks had to stack two cooldowns was taking a 6-hit Akh morn to the face without relying on HG...

    And if a 13k HP tank gets hit by a 8k tank buster he was simply lazy, bad, or both. 8k means he did not bother mitigating anything all. If he can't tell when a tank buster is coming, he shouldn't be using STR gear in first place. Btw, I don't recall anything in HW hitting more than 8k apart from blinding blade.
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    Sir Taint
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    If you want to play a DD so much, play a DD.
    Just don't forget, tanks are there to get hit and make things easier on the healers and DDs. That's our role. It's nice if you can put in the damage when you need to, but that's the role of the DD's. And they will always be better at it.

    If you have a party that knows you and can deal with it, mix it up all you want, but if it's with new people, you're just going to make it harder on everyone.


    Good tanks out DPS bad DPS all the time. So no they are not always better at it.

    Tanks are also required to DPS, why wouldn't they maximize their DPS?

    Obviously a tank should meet the HP requirement and swap gear depending on their healers, but full STR is satisfactory for 99.9% of the game.

    Top tier tanks will have VIT,STR and i150 hybrids at their side.
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