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    The "the more HP the more to top it", it's true but you don't need to keep everyone topped off, did you ever play as an healer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    The "the more HP the more to top it", it's true but you don't need to keep everyone topped off, did you ever play as an healer?
    Then what was the point in that extra HP to begin with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Then what was the point in that extra HP to begin with?
    I dont have much experience in either role but Im assuming its to give the healer more room to dps without worrying about the tank dying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olio View Post
    I dont have much experience in either role but Im assuming its to give the healer more room to dps without worrying about the tank dying
    But it would only last until the tank drops low the first time, because if you're not at full then that extra HP no longer exists. It only works as an extra cushion if you're at full, otherwise you've been healed for the same amount as the lower HP tank and therefore have the same HP but one of the two has more STR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    But it would only last until the tank drops low the first time, because if you're not at full then that extra HP no longer exists. It only works as an extra cushion if you're at full, otherwise you've been healed for the same amount as the lower HP tank and therefore have the same HP but one of the two has more STR.
    Other than the cushion which works more than just the first moment cause HoT, fairies, stoneskin and what not will still work their magic on the tank, it's less stress for the healer and more place for party member mistakes. As I said earlier, it's ok to go mixed to full STR in certain situations but it's not the always right thing to do cause if you were an healer you'd see the messy tanks that are filling the DR/DF/PFs etc. That's one of the reasons I don't queue as healer anymore.
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    Last edited by Greven; 07-18-2015 at 11:04 PM.

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    Delcas Seven
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Then what was the point in that extra HP to begin with?
    The actual reality is that overhealing is typical. If you heal a Vit tank and a Str tank the exact same amount of times for an encounter you'll eventually get a free cure due to the extra health from overhealing.
    Health regen is also based off of your maximum health, so a Vit tank has higher Health regen per second then a STR tank.
    This can all be trivial or it can be relevent.

    The debate is largely nonsensical regardless. Tanks deal their necessary damage just by properly holding hate. Tanks doing insufficient damage lose aggro to competent dps.The Extra Str of a STR tank has the ability to make the content go faster.
    If someone fucks up however then you lose the entire speed advantage so the performance of the players is key to making this run correctly, Vit builds have a notably larger margin of error and have significantly higher effective health.

    Given I play the tank I only have to concern myself with 1 other tank but if I were the DPS or the healer I wouldn't really give a damn which one so long as we completed. I remember an A2 run Im in full str the other tank is in Hybrid gear. Should I go "Your hybrid gear has a bunch of unnecessary vit, and you have less str then me get gud"? Nope, it doesn't even matter.
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    Last edited by Hundred; 07-19-2015 at 05:14 AM.