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    MiruWest's Avatar
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 70
    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
    No, ifrit is pretty much the clear winner unless you are constantly baning.
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    ahh thats lame so now the gap btwn them is even closer.
    nope ifrit wins on single target, im around 40-50ish dps higher with ifrit on a dummy parse and as for aoes if everything dies fast then ifrit is the one to choose for trash otherwise garuda all the way. I still use garuda for fights that require mobility and target isn't quite stationary.



    I parsed with astro buffs on a dummy, it feels like spear is the best buff for smns during aoes although arrow during dwt is just awesome <3
    sadly my highest parse with ast at i182 was around 1200 dps with screw ups, balance is awesome too especially with foes and battle voice, omg that damage burst is INSANE on the opener!
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    nope ifrit wins on single target, im around 40-50ish dps higher with ifrit on a dummy parse and as for aoes if everything dies fast then ifrit is the one to choose for trash otherwise garuda all the way. I still use garuda for fights that require mobility and target isn't quite stationary.



    I parsed with astro buffs on a dummy, it feels like spear is the best buff for smns during aoes although arrow during dwt is just awesome <3
    sadly my highest parse with ast at i182 was around 1200 dps with screw ups, balance is awesome too especially with foes and battle voice, omg that damage burst is INSANE on the opener!
    What do you get without AST, using Ifrit? I'm getting about 1050-1100 no party. Using 1P/2F opener, pot a GCD after Shadowflare. I'm thinking Ifrit's still the go to pet in 3.0 if Radiant Shield can do some work but gotta do more testing, cause I generally don't get the 1,100 people report while using Garuda, on a dummy, so I might be making a mistake here or there unknowingly.
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    What do you get without AST, using Ifrit? I'm getting about 1050-1100 no party. Using 1P/2F opener, pot a GCD after Shadowflare. I'm thinking Ifrit's still the go to pet in 3.0 if Radiant Shield can do some work but gotta do more testing, cause I generally don't get the 1,100 people report while using Garuda, on a dummy, so I might be making a mistake here or there unknowingly.
    I just got 1113 with Ifrit no party. 18% crit using a similar rotation to the one Haven posted. Are you using Draconian pots ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    I just got 1113 with Ifrit no party. 18% crit using a similar rotation to the one Haven posted. Are you using Draconian pots ?
    Was 12% crit, X-pot, last I tried was 1,070. Opener is:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Enkindle + Aether > R2 > 3D > R3 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    Then following basic DoT upkeep, keeping stacks alive until DWT can be used with 3D + Aetherflow, get 2 Festers per DWT, use Rouse + Spur on CD. Parse ended at around 3:50, after a final Fester. Not sure if the 1100s are just more crits or a better end time or smoother execution, or if my opener is simply flawed enough to give me a few % deviation.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 07-27-2015 at 08:25 AM.

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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Was 12% crit, X-pot, last I tried was 1,070. Opener is:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Enkindle + Aether > R2 > 3D > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    Then following basic DoT upkeep, keeping stacks alive until DWT can be used with 3D + Aetherflow, get 2 Festers per DWT, use Rouse + Spur on CD. Parse ended at around 3:50, after a final Fester.
    Sounds about right then. I am using Draconian pots.

    Edit: actually that opener sounds really good lol, I am gonna give it a try.
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    Hai Hai
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Was 12% crit, X-pot, last I tried was 1,070. Opener is:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Enkindle + Aether > R2 > 3D > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    Then following basic DoT upkeep, keeping stacks alive until DWT can be used with 3D + Aetherflow, get 2 Festers per DWT, use Rouse + Spur on CD. Parse ended at around 3:50, after a final Fester. Not sure if the 1100s are just more crits or a better end time or smoother execution, or if my opener is simply flawed enough to give me a few % deviation.
    I went ahead and added your opener to my guide. I hope you don't mind that I put your name on it.
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BakaWakka View Post
    I went ahead and added your opener to my guide. I hope you don't mind that I put your name on it.
    Good job, thanks for adding this.

    Sleigh, is there a reason for using the pot before RS ? I found that if I use RS before the pot, I can end DWT at 4 secs and have Deathflare buffed by both the Pot and RS.
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    Celes Arulaq
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    Midgardsormr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Was 12% crit, X-pot, last I tried was 1,070. Opener is:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Enkindle + Aether > R2 > 3D > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    Then following basic DoT upkeep, keeping stacks alive until DWT can be used with 3D + Aetherflow, get 2 Festers per DWT, use Rouse + Spur on CD. Parse ended at around 3:50, after a final Fester. Not sure if the 1100s are just more crits or a better end time or smoother execution, or if my opener is simply flawed enough to give me a few % deviation.
    I love you and love your face for this opener
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