We should have a "Lance mage", "Ninja Sword mage", "Fist mage"

[Solsanna]

This just in, adding stance dances, extra skills, and fundamentally changing a class to create two different feels depending on stance, need for mobility vs damage, and all that, is less complicated than the original pressing 2 dots, making sure a 20 sec buff is up, hitting a proc button, and then pressing 1 for ever. I did coil as a brd, I didn't want to because it was boring, but i did because ranged on-demand silence is good for T9. I could pretty much fall asleep or roll my face across the keyboard and win. It didn't feel smooth, it was stupidly simple, I'd call it the laziest class in the game. Needed to know just about nothing and worry about just about nothing. Braindead.

Welcome to being a real class that actually has to pay attention to shit.

[Aiselia]

Welcome to being a real class that actually has to pay attention to shit.

If you weren't paying attention to things as a Bard before, you were being carried.

Look Bards. You can have two of the following, but not all 3.

* High Mobility
* High Utility
* High DPS

You pick.

I pick high mobility and high DPS.

I don't use my TP/MP songs in most of the game anyways, and Foe's is only particularly useful if I'm with a caster.

[T0rin]

I pick high mobility and high DPS.

Time to switch classes then!

[Aiselia]

Time to switch classes then!

Then do tell me which class I should be that has the mobility of 2.0 Bard with high DPS.

[T0rin]

Then do tell me which class I should be that has the mobility of 2.0 Bard with high DPS.

I said High Mobility, not Godlike Mobility. Nothing with good DPS has mobility like that. Summoner and Ninja are the closest.

[Ephier]

I said High Mobility, not Godlike Mobility. Nothing with good DPS has mobility like that. Summoner and Ninja are the closest.

In before he makes claims that they are not mobile.

[Aiselia]

I said High Mobility, not Godlike Mobility. Nothing with good DPS has mobility like that. Summoner and Ninja are the closest.

Then nothing has the mobility I want. And which I had until a month ago.

[T0rin]

Then nothing has the mobility I want. And which I had until a month ago.

Turn off WM and deal with the lost DPS. You don't get to have godlike mobility and top tier DPS, sorry.

[Zamii]

Then nothing has the mobility I want. And which I had until a month ago.

since you seem to be so adamant about wanting your mobility then, then let me tell you something...

you cant always have everything you want! if square made changes based on what people wanted and not what made the game as a whole balanced, classes would be killing bosses in 3 hits, i don't even want to imagine what the state of summoner would be if people like akiza had all they wanted.

[Tila]

If you weren't paying attention to things as a Bard before, you were being carried.



I pick high mobility and high DPS.

I don't use my TP/MP songs in most of the game anyways, and Foe's is only particularly useful if I'm with a caster.

I think the point they were making was that BRD was the easiest, most brain dead class. Which it was. Though that doesnt mean it needed a change, I agree WM was too much. Though I disagree that BRD without it should do competitive DPS.