Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[ncx24]

finally someone who understands something about dps... i sell ravanas as a monk so fights usually end up longer than usual, but to give you some #s my best run was 893 dps at 7 mins 30seconds, literally playing perfectly with food no pot, i got every FC,TK and even got lucky and crit 3x times with that as well as hitting multiple butteflies + ravana with elixir field + howling fist, and thats the dps i got, on the other hand a goon friend who got hit with the slow, and not esunaed managed to get 930+ dps... so let me ask you why the hell do i need to play perfectly to do less dps than someone who can mess up? and if youre wondering yes, i saved all FCs for attack stance (all the ones that needed to be saved at least)

[Tila]

finally someone who understands something about dps... i sell ravanas as a monk so fights usually end up longer than usual, but to give you some #s my best run was 893 dps at 7 mins 30seconds, literally playing perfectly with food no pot, i got every FC,TK and even got lucky and crit 3x times with that as well as hitting multiple butteflies + ravana with elixir field + howling fist, and thats the dps i got, on the other hand a goon friend who got hit with the slow, and not esunaed managed to get 930+ dps... so let me ask you why the hell do i need to play perfectly to do less dps than someone who can mess up? and if youre wondering yes, i saved all FCs for attack stance (all the ones that needed to be saved at least)

Don't forget that said DRG also contributed more utility to the raid without having to sacrifice his damage to do so.

[ncx24]

Don't forget that said DRG also contributed more utility to the raid without having to sacrifice his damage to do so.

you just had to remind me <.<, it use to be monks were less damage because the utility we brought, but now that drk are out and monk dragon kick and an int debuff can be had elsewhere all we really bring is a mantra of 30% heal, although it does synergize well, its not enough to warrant such a dps hit in end game content now

[Zamii]

you just had to remind me <.<, it use to be monks were less damage because the utility we brought, but now that drk are out and monk dragon kick and an int debuff can be had elsewhere all we really bring is a mantra of 30% heal, although it does synergize well, its not enough to warrant such a dps hit in end game content now

now the part where it gets worse: our mantra is 20%, not 30%
i still think if mch dps was considered blunt, everything would be a LOT better, but alas, more power to the dragoons..

yoshi did mention balance updates when savage alexander comes out though, and he has also said that he wanted monk to be top dps, and while im not entirely sure we should be top dps (i still factor in disembowel and the like as drg dps btw), it does give us hope to be a little more on par.

[MiruWest]

now the part where it gets worse: our mantra is 20%, not 30%
i still think if mch dps was considered blunt, everything would be a LOT better, but alas, more power to the dragoons..

yoshi did mention balance updates when savage alexander comes out though, and he has also said that he wanted monk to be top dps, and while im not entirely sure we should be top dps (i still factor in disembowel and the like as drg dps btw), it does give us hope to be a little more on par.

Did he say this recently or you speaking about interviews from months ago?

[Zamii]

Did he say this recently or you speaking about interviews from months ago?

i dont remember when exactly, but it was quite some time ago, some time in early patch 2.5 i think

[ncx24]

yoshi did mention balance updates when savage alexander comes out though, and he has also said that he wanted monk to be top dps, and while im not entirely sure we should be top dps (i still factor in disembowel and the like as drg dps btw), it does give us hope to be a little more on par.

lol, it doesnt seem like with the new dragoon positonal changes again, unless they increase monk positionals which i hope not because im still holding out hoping we get new skill rework D:

[Elkya95]

lol, it doesnt seem like with the new dragoon positonal changes again, unless they increase monk positionals which i hope not because im still holding out hoping we get new skill rework D:

Makes me sad to know they're removing the little hard work DRG had to do to be highest DPS, now they get to be top DPS for less work! I know DRG was far down for a while, but that is no reason for them to be so high now .-.

[Tila]

now the part where it gets worse: our mantra is 20%, not 30%
i still think if mch dps was considered blunt, everything would be a LOT better, but alas, more power to the dragoons..

yoshi did mention balance updates when savage alexander comes out though, and he has also said that he wanted monk to be top dps, and while im not entirely sure we should be top dps (i still factor in disembowel and the like as drg dps btw), it does give us hope to be a little more on par.

Kinda obvious why Monk would be highest DPS. They offer the least utility of any other melee DPS. If they don't have the highest dps then they are pointless to take unless you dont have a DRK. Is any other class invalidated entirely by the inclusion of another class?

[i2agnarok]

Kinda obvious why Monk would be highest DPS. They offer the least utility of any other melee DPS. If they don't have the highest dps then they are pointless to take unless you dont have a DRK. Is any other class invalidated entirely by the inclusion of another class?

That's how DRGs felt, especially when NIN released. The only buff we had to another party member was for the BRD. Lowest damage melee, positional issues, MDEF deaths that couldn't be avoided...And then the buffs happened, bringing us a bit more in line with the other melees. Then 3.0 happened. I am of the impression that MNK will get a little more oopmh at some point. But remember, other classes have felt your pain.

Although I main DRG, I did play MNK quite a bit throughout all of 2.0, and I'm a bit surprised that DRG edges out now. Still, I believe that there will be minor tweaks that will happen to even the scales a bit more. That said, I don't really think MNK is in a BAD position. We'll see what Alex Savage brings, I guess...