Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[Giantbane]

Thrill of battle isn't mitigation its a self heal, which can increase the mp efficiency. I'm not sure if you're implying conv + thrill stack because that's not the case? DRK also gains access to conv as well. The implication wasn't to drop the WAR but to lose the PLD. Keep in mind though when you start factoring in self heals sure they help out for big hitters but they don't continue to mitigate past that point where CDS like dark mind and rampart do etc.

Thrill increases your max hit points by 20% AND heals by that amount.

You know how Defiance works? Where it increases your HP and it increases the amount of healing done to you. You know how this makes it work almost exactly like Grit & Shield Oath do in terms of how much damage you can take and how much healing your require? This is despite the fact that Defiance isn't actual mitigation.

Thrill increases your max HP, Convalescence increases the amount of healing you receive. Use them at the same time and it works exactly like Defiance does.

So for all intents and purposes, when you use both abilities together, it works just like the Warrior's version of Rampart & Shadowskin.