Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Odowla]

Do you feel you could go higher? RNG was somewhat kind but that was pretty much compensated by applying lead shot w/o gauss, cancelling a cast & wasting 1 ammo on clean shot late in the attempt.


Though I still think parses should run until TP is dry... not after a convenient wildfire tick.

I mean
https://i.gyazo.com/40d6267571310305...a011cdc55f.png non stance-dance until i ran dry. not really a difference lmao. qqmoarkthx

[Ryaz]

Anyone know what a good average dps for Bismarck Ex is? Was trying to do it today with a group of full 180s and we couldn't clear the snakes in phase 2. The monk and I were around 700-750, while our two other dps hit around 550. I literally did everything I could to increase dps, but we drop one snake and there'd be another one with about 5% health left that would disappear in about 5 seconds of the last debuff switch. We were averaging about 650 dps... It's just discouraging to fail as I haven't cleared Bis Ex yet and can't seem to get everyone to pull their weight. It was even more discouraging when several times I was spamming split shot 4-5 times with no procs.

[Massterchef]

Stance dance - 1078 DPS

http://i.imgur.com/PlSFwz3.png

Breakdown
http://i.imgur.com/39HOskL.png

Outgoing Damage
http://i.imgur.com/2ZK4pS4.png

AAs do about 13 DPS

Full GB - 1073 DPS

http://i.imgur.com/eFIdROS.png

Breakdown
http://i.imgur.com/NRJvemr.png

Skill Breakdown
http://i.imgur.com/XgJPHz3.png

Taking the DoT RNG out of the equation since they varied by 10 DPS. Full GB does about 22 more skill/ability DPS compared to the 13 AA DPS from stance dance with similar % crit. But the amount of extra DPS gained will be up to RNG wheres AA DPS is more consistent. Either way you're looking at negligible differences.

[Haxetc]

Can you post a skill breakdown of the first part? I don't usually say shit about procs but holy shit on that second parse lol

[Haxetc]

Actually, can you post the outgoing damage tab for both? Tells a lot more imo. Good parses tho!

[Massterchef]

I had to import from history so the #'s will be a few digits off but here's the outgoing damage for the first one. I'll import/post the second one soon as log files are available.

Stance Dance



edit: Imported

Fulltime GB

[RiceisNice]

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This is what helps with analyzing, espesically when comparing playstyle differences. Thanks for this.

In the end though, I still feel stance dancing can get very impractical if the fight does not line up for the 15 second lock. Were you using ricochet and gauss round off cooldown during fulltime, or did you try to line it for every second wildfire?

[Leeora]

Hello. I have been playing MCH since the pre-release access. I like the class so much that I decided to make it my main. However I have run into a problem that has come up quite frequently. I am consistently getting ridiculed for playing the class let alone making it my main class. At first I did not let it bother me, as Summoners had the same issue when the game first came out. Now every time I am in a duty, regardless of the actual persons fault, the blame is getting brought down to the MCH class which has left me getting either booted or people abandoning the duty. I have heard things across all spectrums of excuses about the class and the thing that is brought up the most is why bring a MCH when you can bring in a Summoner who has more utility and does more damage. MCH is a waste of a dps slot.

Is there something I can say to make other groups feel justified in taking me along over other classes? Do you guys have some advice to give me?

[Leeora]

Due to space I forgot to mention that I started to think that maybe it was just me. That I wasn't playing the class right, or getting down the rotations to make it effective. I was told by someone who ran with me for a bit that it wasn't my fault, that the class was designed to..."play like balls." This eventually came to a head when my FC was asking people who were level 60 if they wanted to do BisEX/Alexander. Considering those were the reason why I was rushing to get my ilvl up, I said I did. The person organizing the event seem disappointing and said. "I really thought you were going to be going in as a BLM" I never once stated that was the case, I did say I wanted to main my MCH many times during the course of the expansion thus far, and never even thought of focusing on BLM yet. It made me feel pretty bad, but more importantly I do not want to be bullied out of playing a class I really love.

[Ryaz]

This is what helps with analyzing, espesically when comparing playstyle differences. Thanks for this.

In the end though, I still feel stance dancing can get very impractical if the fight does not line up for the 15 second lock. Were you using ricochet and gauss round off cooldown during fulltime, or did you try to line it for every second wildfire?

Stance dancing can be detrimental in other ways as well, as I found out. It's just one more thing to keep track of on top of mechanics, buffs, procs, etc. I was actually so focused on it today, I missed one of the reflect changes on Bismarck and killed myself. For what amounts to a negligible difference, I don't really think it's worth the headache.

Leeora: I did Alex the first day it came out with one of my FC members who's a tank. He was iffy on MCH as well. By the end of the day he wanted to play one as he saw me topping the Aggro and dps charts all day, and was glad that MCH wasn't the horror story he had heard about. He was even surprised when I pulled Aggro off him once because he thought a MCH would be the last class to be able to do it. There's a stigma right now due to all the talk, but trust me, enjoy your MCH and learn a little about it. When you do, you'll show your FC members just how good it is. And if they really try to bully you into switching classes, I'd say it's not an FC worth being part of.