Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Ephier]

Also need to take into account two things. Gauss round and gauss barrel are required to be used in calculation because they are the auto attack replacements. Second, the more you buff the stronger gauss barrel is. People are not accounting for hot shot in their calculation. 1.56*1.05=1.638. While non gb gets 1.2*1.05=1.26. The difference in multiplier strength went from .36 to .378. This multiplier gets bigger and bigger for every buff you put on and the higher the potency the stronger is is.

[Ryaz]

Also need to take into account two things. Gauss round and gauss barrel are required to be used in calculation because they are the auto attack replacements. Second, the more you buff the stronger gauss barrel is. People are not accounting for hot shot in their calculation. 1.56*1.05=1.638. While non gb gets 1.2*1.05=1.26. The difference in multiplier strength went from .36 to .378. This multiplier gets bigger and bigger for every buff you put on and the higher the potency the stronger is is.

Ah yes, forgot about Hot Shot. Add in a DRG for 10% extra piercing damage and GB pulls ahead just due to massive scaling.

[airshowboat]

Because math is fun

Split
GB 140.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 229.32
NGB 140.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 264.40

Slug
GB 180.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 294.84
NGB 180.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 314.80

Clean
GB 200.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 327.60
NGB 200.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 340.00

Granted, that is dependent on the fact that auto attack potency is calculated as weapon delay/3.00 * 100. In the machinist case, 2.64/3.00*100 = 88.00. Given the calculations (short of a stupid mistake) it seems stance dancing could be a thing.

Thought process being, only stance dance if the following are true:

Is lead shot dot up? Yes
Is gauss round on cooldown? Yes
Is ricochet on cooldown? Yes

[Ryaz]

Don't forget, Gauss Round adds about 38.92 potency every 2.64 seconds and once you're in GB, you're stuck in it for 15 seconds. So you'd only have 5 seconds of non-GB time every 20 seconds, which may net you 2 auto-attacks, if that.

[airshowboat]

Don't forget, Gauss Round adds about 38.92 potency every 2.64 seconds.

Well, the idea of stance dancing is to get the benefit of both. You would never want to miss a gauss round to get AA. But with the insta casting nature of gauss barrel, it COULD work. I like the idea of stance dancing (not only because it sounds cool) but it may not matter over the course of an entire fight. Its not unreasonable to think that you could have used lead shot, ricochet, and gauss round and have 20 seconds to kill before your next gauss round.. You would "theoretically" have higher dps in that 20 seconds if you stance danced. Most likely the complexity would end up hurting your dps in the long run if you mess up during the rotation.

[Elizabeth]

Because math is fun

Split
GB 140.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 229.32
NGB 140.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 264.40

Slug
GB 180.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 294.84
NGB 180.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 314.80

Clean
GB 200.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 * 1.30 = 327.60
NGB 200.00 * 1.20 * 1.05 + 88.00 = 340.00

Granted, that is dependent on the fact that auto attack potency is calculated as weapon delay/3.00 * 100. In the machinist case, 2.64/3.00*100 = 88.00. Given the calculations (short of a stupid mistake) it seems stance dancing could be a thing.

Thought process being, only stance dance if the following are true:

Is lead shot dot up? Yes
Is gauss round on cooldown? Yes
Is ricochet on cooldown? Yes

So, basically, we could stance dance right after the opener? Using Wild Fire as a "chronometer" to put GB on again?

[RiceisNice]

So, basically, we could stance dance right after the opener? Using Wild Fire as a "chronometer" to put GB on again?

If my tests are anything to go by;

-Fulltime GB 3.01 has seen a straight up damage increase compared to before it.
- Burst GB dps has gone down a bit due to Ricochet being nerfed. Before you'd go into GB, burst everything during wildfire, then disable it to regain auto attacks (which at the time was superior to the 20% buff from GB)

[airshowboat]

So, basically, we could stance dance right after the opener? Using Wild Fire as a "chronometer" to put GB on again?

Not quite. I would suggest dropping GB after you exhaust the last gauss round in the opener. Then putting it back up again when you have to reapply lead shot. The stance dance could only work if you have used lead shot (dot time still remains) & ricochet/gauss round are on CD.

[Devilgunman]

So, basically, we could stance dance right after the opener? Using Wild Fire as a "chronometer" to put GB on again?

I would say this calculation suggests that you could drop GB after opener and not suffer DPS loss. However, this calculation assumes that your AA hit all the time, which in a real battle that might not be the case.

[airshowboat]

I would say this calculation suggests that you could drop GB after opener and not suffer DPS loss. However, this calculation assumes that your AA hit all the time, which in a real battle that might not be the case.

Well, the gauss round adds another 36.86 dps every 2.5 seconds under the same conditions. That is if you split the potency per cast over the normal 2.5 second GCD. Basically, you lose dps if you miss casting a gauss round because of AA. Although, if you could get the benefit of gauss round + auto attack, you have added dps. All in theory of course