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    MageBlack's Avatar
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    So what you are saying is there isn't one, all the games you describe crashed and burned or had very small player bases. Sound like a good business plan, SE should get right on it.

    The franchise name is not carrying the game, just go see FFXIV pre 2.0. FYI casuals pay the bills not hardcore players. That 5% of content is for 5% of the player base. I also can make up numbers to support my opinion. I love the internet.
    Excellent points, I would only like to add FFXI as an example. while it didnt go F2P it was geared way more towards the hardcore yet only achieved 500k subs at its peak (to the best of my knowledge, i could be off on the numbers.) and it was an FF title.

    Like i mentioned on the page before, People are coming to a burger joint and complaining they cant get a steak and lobster dinner with a baked potato. Best you are gunna get is a steak burger with a side of fries.
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  2. #52
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    Alinda Thorn
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    Sargatanas
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    While I don't have the many gripes the OP does with the game, I do think it needs a third pillar of sorts in the open-world. Perhaps true world bosses or open-world dungeons? I've struggled to come up with a good idea. But, I just think we need a new kind of content.
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  3. #53
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    Zabuza's Avatar
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Leviathan
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    Open world bosses already exist in the form of hunts. This worked better in FFXI because they could put a cap on the amount of people who could attack it at once. In FFXIV anyone and everyone can attack these "world bosses" so they melt.

    For hunts to work properly in FFXIV, the difficulty would have to scale with the amount of people attacking the boss. Same thing would have to apply for an open world dungeon.
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  4. #54
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I'm a little disappointed that alex was more of a series of trials again rather than actual raid dungeons, the lack of trash/environmental mechanics overall is kinda sad. granted the boss fights are/will be fun but I tend to be in agreement with the lack of actual raid tiers, It'd be fine if the raids were large but they aren't.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but WoW has more raids in each patch but they also have multiple difficulties of those said raids for various types of players yes? Would the same system work here as well? From what I've seen they seem to add more raids/dungeons in general and in multiple difficulties. Then again I've never played it so I'm open for someone to enlighten me.
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    Ravana
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    Go compared Heavensward to Blizzards Warlords of Draenor... you will see just how good you actually have it. Heaps of WoW players have quit to join Eorzea.
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  6. #56
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    Hayley Westenra
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    OP, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Just because the game doesn't cater to what you want, it addresses things that people have been looking for. The world does not revolve around you and this game was not designed just for you. It was designed for everyone. So please show some respect to the developmental team for releasing a great expansion pack, even though it did not satisfied your needs, it as satisfied us other players. The developmental team broke their backs rebuilding ARR and making this expansion, so show some respect for them. They are working hard at addressing things and they will listen to us. That is what the forum is for, it's for discussion and for also providing feedback to the game.
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  7. #57
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    Coeur Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but WoW has more raids in each patch but they also have multiple difficulties of those said raids for various types of players yes? Would the same system work here as well? From what I've seen they seem to add more raids/dungeons in general and in multiple difficulties. Then again I've never played it so I'm open for someone to enlighten me.
    Yes but you'll get burned very quickly after doing the same bosses every week with a few extra mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Open world bosses already exist in the form of hunts. This worked better in FFXI because they could put a cap on the amount of people who could attack it at once.
    They can do the same here. You can't attack Treasure Hunt or Leve mobs that someone else is doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    They are working hard at addressing things and they will listen to us.
    Problem is when the developers actually listen to people on the boards. Imagine if they followed the TC's directions.

    Crafting and Gathering certainly got a lot worse due to them listening to complaints on the forums. They went from being fun at release to becoming a second job.
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    Last edited by Gilthas; 07-08-2015 at 09:50 AM.

  9. #59
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    Fayne Malthalian
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    They are working hard at addressing things and they will listen to us. That is what the forum is for, it's for discussion and for also providing feedback to the game.
    This is exactly what the OP did, feedback and discussion, what is your issue here? Similarly one can say that the world doesn't revolve around you and that the game wasn't designed solely for you. Don't have such a condescending attitude about other peoples legitimate concerns.
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    Nymeria Faelivrin
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    Ultros
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    I'm not sure what was so crappy about the 2.4 Bahamut fight. I guess it didn't live up to T9 but I enjoyed it regardless.
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