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    Rivez's Avatar
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    Odin
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    "Don't forget to add Increased Action Damage to all your abilities. That doesn't affect auto-attacks. The actual damage increase with GB on is 56%, not 30%"

    how does the percentage work? are all the damage percentages added up on the end or is it 30% of the damage+trait?

    if its the first it wont make any difference to to putting the barrel on or off in calculations. If its the second the 30% will be slightly higher than 30%
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    "Don't forget to add Increased Action Damage to all your abilities. That doesn't affect auto-attacks. The actual damage increase with GB on is 56%, not 30%"

    how does the percentage work? are all the damage percentages added up on the end or is it 30% of the damage+trait?

    if its the first it wont make any difference to to putting the barrel on or off in calculations. If its the second the 30% will be slightly higher than 30%
    multiplicative, just like every other cooldown

    was doing ~800 dps full time gauss on all 4 alex fights. The GB change is nice.

    Ilevel i155 BTW
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    Kaelan Loire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    multiplicative, just like every other cooldown

    was doing ~800 dps full time gauss on all 4 alex fights. The GB change is nice.

    Ilevel i155 BTW
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
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    Quote Originally Posted by airshowboat View Post
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
    ofc, i alarm clocked it with my raid so i had to cheese the ilevel to get in, meaning my actual gear was i155 since i just finished levelling it last night, lol
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    Still 800 dps at i155 is pretty awesome! How do you handle the 2nd wildfire? Do you pop it as it as soon as it comes or hold it until reload and other cooldowns recharge?
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by airshowboat View Post
    Still 800 dps at i155 is pretty awesome! How do you handle the 2nd wildfire? Do you pop it as it as soon as it comes or hold it until reload and other cooldowns recharge?
    This has been the biggest question to me even before the patch. I am not entirely sure if it is worth holding Wildfire back until reload comes or use it on the spot, because they definitely do not line up. Like 30 seconds not line up.
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    Spent some time testing out possibilities though i'm only 55 so the numbers are lower but with the way potency works the percentages should stay the same with higher damage.

    Ok just going with numbers averaged in game with all non crits only taken into account I generally got this:

    comparing my attack averages for moves: auto attack 170
    then the combo 343,460,506
    combo with barrel 441,559,674

    adding 88% auto attack which would be 156 to count for it being a little slower

    combo adding auto attack no barrel 499,616,662



    first attack weaker
    second weaker
    third hit stronger

    ofcourse you get much better numbers with rapidfire with barrel on and gauss came to about 571 averaged.

    As far as I can tell the best damage is taking it off for the five seconds you can and make sure you have it on for the quick bursts.

    reload without rapidfire is better with it off
    reload with rapidfire you want it on

    (edit for saying moves name wrong)
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    Last edited by Rivez; 07-07-2015 at 11:17 PM.

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    Zenna Rose
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by airshowboat View Post
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
    I'm doing about the same as you at exactly i170. And yeah I'm pretty sure to pug it it's i170, unless you can queue with a premade group and get around that? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasmiya View Post
    I'm doing about the same as you at exactly i170. And yeah I'm pretty sure to pug it it's i170, unless you can queue with a premade group and get around that? lol
    Good to see people getting similar numbers as me at similar levels . How do you handle the 2nd wildfire? I generally hold onto it until the next reload recharges and pop whatever buffs I have at the time.
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    In A1 I reach a little under 1k and in A3 900+ seems to be where I usually land w/ dragoon.
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