Ways to fix BRD and MCH in a realistic way

[Lewtskie]

Lewt literally just contradicted themselves in their last post by saying Musa said bards should do as much DPS as other DPS...

Blech, this was poor wording on my part. I just want to clear this up and I'll be done.

I wasn't saying that Musa was saying that bards should have equal DPS. I was saying that only people like Musa have been saying that we (and by we I mean Intell, myself, and others) have been saying that bards need equal DPS. Basically he and others would put those words in our mouths, cause if you see, we all kept saying we want more damage, not just as much.

That clarified, yes, the devs have taken notice already. These posts have been rather redundant obviously, but when has that ever stopped anyone on here so far? It's good to vent though; people feel things need be said and they say them, despite being contested or not. And I have said my piece, though I'm sure I could have said it better, so I'm pretty much good on this topic.

[Lillia]

Blech, this was poor wording on my part. I just want to clear this up and I'll be done.

I wasn't saying that Musa was saying that bards should have equal DPS. I was saying that only people like Musa have been saying that we (and by we I mean Intell, myself, and others) have been saying that bards need equal DPS. Basically he and others would put those words in our mouths, cause if you see, we all kept saying we want more damage, not just as much.

More dps... not just as much....? anyways... if you meant you want more dps than what you do now then WM will probably be up your alley when it's fixed but you won't ever have more dps than a dragoon or monk.... and I just did a serious back track on his whole converse... it's all about mobility vs songs along with bards doing low dps never about you wanting as much even Intel said was low dps was a bard thing before this patch so she technically agreed...

So in ARR, these are what defined the different DPS classes:

Melee: High-powered, instant melee attacks. Mobile.
Casters: High-powered ranged spells with casting times. Immobile.
Ranged: Low-powered, instant ranged attacks. Mobile.

Our DPS doesn't have to be high. It's a tradeoff we get for our mobility and utility. After all, our class is all about mobility since we compensate for our low damage by being able to maintain DPS while dodging and rapid-firing oGCDs and procs. Just expand on our current gameplay without drastically changing it

And from what I read, Intel doesn't even have a problem doing low dps, it's mobility issues with WM because WM isn't showing any real boost unless I'm misunderstanding something. -.- You were fighting with him about the whole song vs movement stuff and wanting more dps and he never even said bard should do less, he said they currently do less by the way also that songs are a big deal for our job and what we are used for.

Anyways... My head hurts and I'm done with this thread, if you want more DPS than you have atm then wait for WM fixes, don't whine about it....


Edit:

Otherwise, you put those words in our mouths, not ourselves

Yep, I did say it and I stand by it 100% and yes some people have said it before and I am against them but I also said these posters, not you or intel or anyone else. I'm not willing to backtrack to every post or thread to post names etc either so that was easier to say and not to be rude but my every posts or comments don't revolve around you nor intel nor is every piece of a post directed at either of you and the reply wasn't even to you but a reply to someone else.

and you may want to correct your last post too because it can be misunderstood like that which is why I asked because I wasn't putting that in your mouth.. but you legit said the below soooo and I even said that Intel's problem was with movement in WM..

cause if you see, we all kept saying we want more damage, not just as much.