Ways to fix BRD and MCH in a realistic way

[Musashidon]

What a stupid and asinine claim. Please study more about the subject you are commenting on before actually saying something snarky.

oh bards are dps? then we can just take a better one in your place? right? cause those songs aren't important your mobility is?

[Intellion]

oh bards are dps? then we can just take a better one in your place? right? cause those songs aren't important your mobility is?

Songs are important. They are our valuable utility tool, after all.

But our mobility is more important. You'd only fail to see this if you look at the situation from a non-Bard perspective.

Our mobility is literally the only thing that allows us to maintain sufficient DPS despite our naturally low damage and fulfill our roles as a DPS class.

What Minuet, as of now, is doing is taking away that mobility while giving us nothing in return, meaning that we can no longer maintain acceptable DPS in movement-heavy fights should SE force us into being in WM all the time. Try doing sufficient DPS with Minuet on Titan EX or even just on the final boss of Neverreap. I can assure you, it's a nightmare.

I have discussed this over and over, and I don't feel like repeating it all over again. Feel free to scroll back to earlier pages.

Plus, what color are a Bard's class icon?

Red.

What does red stand for?

DPS.

Please tell me that you know that. There's no "ifs", "buts" or any sort of arguing against that. Bard is a DPS. That's a FACT, not an OPINION.

[Musashidon]

Please tell me that you know that.

seriously your only argument revolves around *it says i am a dps*

your most valuable feature is your songs. if damage was the important part they would take someone who did more but it doesn't matter.

why? because without songs the whole raid fails.

[Intellion]

seriously your only argument revolves around *it says i am a dps*

your most valuable feature is your songs. if damage was the important part they would take someone who did more but it doesn't matter.

why? because without songs the whole raid fails.

You're still failing to see the whole picture.

To a NON-BARD, songs are the most important asset.

To a BARD, mobility is undeniably more important, since proper usage of songs is actually very situational. Mobility is what separates us from casters, and mobility is what allows us to maintain DPS while dodging or handling mechanics.

What Bards are complaining about is that they don't want Minuet to take away their mobility, because that's the only thing they have over the more powerful caster and melee classes. Most of all, Bards love a mobile ranged gameplay, and that's why they rolled the class in the first place instead of casters. That is what's causing an outrage right now.

Yet Non-Bards are flooding this thread, snarkily commenting that Bards "deserve" to have their mobility taken away because they're just "damn jukeboxes." They also go so far as insulting actual Bards, telling them to "learn your job" if they disagree, despite the fact that these NON-BARDS have no damn clue about how to properly play the job they are insulting.

Talk about self-centered and ignorant.

[Musashidon]

Talk about self-centered and ignorant.

i see the whole picture.

*i play bard so i can run and shoot*

guess what? it doesn't matter. people don't care that you can run and shoot they care for your songs.

your mobility has no meaning to everyone else why because your mobility is only important to you.


you have now changed your whole point from mobility is the most important to i am sad i am losing the least important part of my job.

[Intellion]

i see the whole picture.

*i play bard so i can run and shoot*

guess what? it doesn't matter. people don't care that you can run and shoot they care for your songs.

your mobility has no meaning to everyone else why because your mobility is only important to you.


you have no changed your whole point from mobility is the most important to i am sad i am losing the least important part of my job.

You don't see the whole picture.

Mobility means a lot for the team, not just songs. It's the only way we can maintain acceptable DPS with our low damage.

Without maintaining sufficient DPS as a DPS class, we will only cause the party to fail DPS checks.

Low damage is the price we have to pay for having mobility and songs, so without mobility, there is no meaning to Bards.

If you truly see the whole picture and/or knew how to play Bards, you'd realize this easily.


EDIT:

As someone above me has said, if a Bard doesn't use songs, a fight can still be won.

If a Bard fails to maintain acceptable DPS, then the entire party can be placed in peril from DPS checks.

In the end, Bards HAVE to prioritize DPS over songs since they still consume a DPS slot. And right now, we need our mobility to accomplish that.

[Musashidon]

If you truly see the whole picture and/or knew how to play Bards, you'd realize this easily.

songs. bam meaning to bards.

mobility is something you specifically want.

you can still deal damage without moving. blm's do it just fine. you can too.

stop pretending you have to run around 90% of the fight. if you had to blms would be kicked from raids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Oqq0npY1M

congrats going to t13 in full bis lets you do the fight easily.

Hey Folks...Musha is a troll, and it has effectively derailed the conversation for a few pages now. Ignore the Troll.

awww thanks for the recognition <3

but seriously i am a troll because bards lose something that is only important to bards that only play the job for mobility?