No more Accuracy on Healer's equipment

[Hypie]

I noticed that there isn't no more Accuracy on Healer's Equipment. Without we can't (expecially Scholars) do DPS on Alexander (for example).
In Final Coil we already missed so many times (with 408+ Acc).. now I have 350 Acc.. how can we try to do DPS if we really want?

Wow its so obvious that....man they don't want you to dps. End of Story. They said that in several Interviews that they design Raids without Healer DPS. So stop doing something your not supposed to do and heal. If you want to DPS, play one.

And don't draw this "but a good player will dps because he helps the raid with that" card on me. Yoshi said they don't want you to DPS in Heavensward in some Interviews too and thats why they lowered the Acc on Purpose. So whatever YOU want it's designed that way.

And to be honest i think thats the correct Direction. When i was asked to DPS in a Dungeon i was so at loss of words i forgot healing and we wiped on trash....

I just don't get why people say "no" to that.

Because thats not their Job. Their Job is to heal. Not to DPS. And with the promised increasing Difficulty i hope Players wont even have the time about thinking to dps

[SlyRoyale]

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From what I can remember, the developers said was not that they don't want healers to DPS but don't factor it in for raid content. If healers want to assist with DPS, that is a play style choice and a good one at that since it allows you further aid your parties. There's a difference in just healing because it is warranted and twiddling your thumbs playing whack-a-mole with the HP bars. The developers have to be stupid to take away the option for players to use their entire toolkit for the benefit of their groups. Is that what you really want? Do you want to limit others because of some narrow-minded view on the role and not think outside the box?

Also, juggling healing and DPS is what makes and breaks a healer. If you can't do that, you can stick to healing if you wish. Stance dancing takes practice. Don't let one bad experience dissuade you. As Arnold Schwarzenegger once said, "Do not be afraid of failure."

[SDaemon]

If healers want to assist with DPS, that is a play style choice and a good one at that since it allows you further aid your parties.

And it is one they've stated they have no intention of removing. So I am sure they will give healers accuracy to do so.

[Hypie]

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I'm not sure which one, there are way to many interviews out there for hw, but im 100% sure they said "We don't want Healers to DPS in Heavensward".

Originally the DPS Skills are only there because you can't heal your Quest Mobs to death hu-uh Well okay maybe WHM can with his new DMG-Heals? XD
If Healers want to max their Skillset with Off-Dpsing thats okay. But...i just don't know for me what's the Devs said is Law. They don't want you DPS. So your not supposed to DPS in my Eyes. Just my personal Point of View.

>I< don't want to limit you. I'm just fast at accepting the Facts that the Devs want to limit you in this Aspect.

[Raminax]

I'm not sure which one, there are way to many interviews out there for hw, but im 100% sure they said "We don't want Healers to DPS in Heavensward".

Not quite.

From the translated interview:

For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

Yes, it's true that Yoshida has said that they do not design DPS checks with healers adding DPS. However, as far as I know, he hasn't said anything about wanting to prevent Healers from adding damage to a fight either.

Take that as you will.

[SlyRoyale]

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Right, and I'm 100% you heard wrong due to all of the evidence that points to the contrary. While healer DPS weaponskills and abilities are present and do help to facilitate clearing quest instances, they are ultimately a part of a healer's toolkit. To not take advantage of that is to not play to the optimal potential of the job. On top of that, new DPS weaponskills and abilities were added. Some notable examples are Stone III, Aero III, and Broil. On top of that, we also have Assize which does three-fold: damage, healing, and MP restoration. It is also on a 90s cooldown. If the developers didn't want you to DPS, they wouldn't have added such a potent ability. Before you drop the "Holy nerf" on me, Flare got the same treatment too.

Furthermore, using emoticons to back up your claims or make light of the matter doesn't help your case in the slightest. It just makes you look like an ass.

[Hypie]

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Wow stay calm. If i angered you i'm sorry. Maybe your'e right with misshearing english is after all not my native Language.

However, I also think that SE does not want healers to be "bullied into dps-ing" if they don't want to since that is not the actual reason they chose healer as a role.

And like always someone else finds the right words.

I think saying that "DPS-Dancing" is optimal is wrong worded. It's rather doing the Maximum what your job can do. Optimum would be everyone is alive. And after all your DPS is not "needed" its "nice to have". And saying that Healers who don't dps are bad is completely false.

[Naruke]

Wow its so obvious that....man they don't want you to dps. End of Story. They said that in several Interviews that they design Raids without Healer DPS. So stop doing something your not supposed to do and heal. If you want to DPS, play one.

And don't draw this "but a good player will dps because he helps the raid with that" card on me. Yoshi said they don't want you to DPS in Heavensward in some Interviews too and thats why they lowered the Acc on Purpose. So whatever YOU want it's designed that way.

So tell me why they added Assize that healer potency is really low.. Aero III, Stone III and DPS Skills on SCH too? I dont think they added just to do 50-60. If Square do something is always for a reason. Adding DPS Skills on Healer means we have to use them propely

And tell me why statics want that Warriors (a Tank Job) have to do at least 500 DPS (on Final Coil) and now Dark Knights are involved more for DPS than Tanking?

[ColdestHeaven]

So tell me why they added Assize that healer potency is really low.. Aero III, Stone III and DPS Skills on SCH too?

^ nailed the point.

You don't want to DPS? Your problem. Your loss, too - because it will take more time to clear the trash/boss. You can keep people alive? Good, what can I say - you can press two or three buttons just like everyone else, I'm happy.

But the OP asked about accuracy because he wanted to DPS. Because, you know, he got new skills and might want to try them outside of daily hunts or FATEs. So to everyone saying "if I wanted to DPS I'd queue as one", don't come to post in threads like this. If he ends up killing everyone because he wanted his Stone to actually hit the target, THEN and ONLY THEN, he might be reproached. It's called "staying in topic".

[Hypie]

You guys are ridiculous, I swear.

"It isn't my responsibility", "it isn't my job", "content isn't designed around me DPSing", "DEVs didn't intend me to play in such way".

lol.
Your problem is that you take the words "you are not being optimal" as a personal insult to your "playstyle" rather than objective feedback. Optimal doesn't always match with what you like guys (*I don't like DPSing so I only heal but I'm still optimal* -nope it doesn't work that way-).

But at this point, I feel that you just want to hear what you want to hear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__Thtao6vc

Cuz its min/maxing not optimizing. And your insulting everyone who doesnt shares your playstyle, that's really mature. But to catch on you dumb Video its exactly the other Way around.

Usually having less to Heal and doing nothing is a sign that you have a good Group and the Players know what to do. Using there Defense Cooldowns and Stuff. We all had Fun. Then there came the Elitists (you) and say "You do it completely wrong. You have to DPS when there is nothing to Heal or you are a bad Heal/Player" Then a Minority, the few Progress orientated Players, said "well its not bad to have this extra DPS right? Let's try it." The Healers in the Progress orientated Static CHOOSE to DPS so that they can Progress a bit faster. The others did not and still had Fun.

And there is still you, the Elitist, who rambles on that everyone who doesn't DPS is a bad Heal.

Now I wonder who is the "Special Princess" here. The Players who choose a Healer Job because they didn't want to DPS or Tank. The Progress Healers who do it free of their own Choice because it COULD help the Group even when the Developers said that Healer DPS was never intended to matter. Or you...the Elitist.

Then it sounds like you're just as lazy in real life as you are in game. I'm sure you pretend to be the most effective person there too.

Nope i work my 8hour share like everyone else. But it's not my Job to...let's say take the Trash out. That's the Job of the Cleaning Duty which comes over every Day Evening. Do you want me to take away her Job? I bet she will be grateful for that (and don't say this doesn't matchs 100% i know that too it was just a easy example).

So tell me why they added Assize that healer potency is really low.. Aero III, Stone III and DPS Skills on SCH too? I dont think they added just to do 50-60. If Square do something is always for a reason. Adding DPS Skills on Healer means we have to use them propely

And tell me why statics want that Warriors (a Tank Job) have to do at least 500 DPS (on Final Coil) and now Dark Knights are involved more for DPS than Tanking?

I think exactly because of 50-60. And Tanks dpsing is a whole other Matter than Heals doing it. There is a big Difference here which would require his own Thread. And wow shunning DRK as a Tank because SE set the bar a bit low so we dont have the NIN Whining Flood again is really narrowminded.

People react better to Buffs and we the Players have sometimes Ideas the Devs would never come too. As a example someone had the idea to add a magic defense down to Delirium (which is really pointless right now when you are not offtanking). Thats a brilliant idea!

So before we have all that crying again because they nerfed the 3 new jobs they rather set em lower und buff em here and there to make it even to the other classes. The sheer mass on data and feedback they gather now is much better than the small feedback of closed beta or internal testing.

But the OP asked about accuracy because HE wanted to DPS.

That's great and all. HE CHOOSE to DPS. Sadly there where some here who came and said "healers have to dps anyway because i say so..." Thats why we strayed offtopic. And then they continued to label everyone else who doesn't plays like them as bad/lazy players. Sorry but i can't sit still letting someone else calling me a bad/lazy player only because i didn't choose to do something which is not required.


Oh and sorry for the late answers. Posting Limit our Daily Curse....