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  1. #71
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    bloodSp3c's Avatar
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    Renary Devarian
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    Ravana
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    White Mage Lv 100
    there is no acc on new gear coz se dosnt want us to dps lol
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  2. #72
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodSp3c View Post
    there is no acc on new gear coz se dosnt want us to dps lol
    Apparently what they don't want us to DPS is lvl 50 content lol. Lvl 60 dungeons without ACC? No problem. Lvl 50? Whiff, whiff, whiff....
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  3. #73
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Probably it's just to early to think to it,
    I could even think that they "forgot" it up to now, and with the release of Alexander or Alexander extreme the accuracy will pop in our gear or they will change something on miss rate for healers or even make a change on Cleric Stance that will buff your accuracy too like Shield Oath and other passive tanking skills now do. xD

    I hope they didn't intend to use materia melding as accuracy fix for healers who want to DPS, it would force healers to buy expensive gear for endgame content just for aiming to help a little with DPS, it would be insane.
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  4. #74
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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Geologo View Post
    ...or even make a change on Cleric Stance that will buff your accuracy too like Shield Oath and other passive tanking skills now do. xD
    I would rather have that then the RNG traits they keep giving WHM.
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  5. #75
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    ckc22's Avatar
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Funny how there are different people with different play styles, if you ever group up with her in DF and the rest of your group feels the way you do, there is a kick option. No-one here is asking you to play with her. Also not really "bringing the group down" as you put it. Group content isn't designed with healer dps factored in, any dps you get from your healer is a boon, but not having it simply keeps things at the baseline.



    Demanding others acquisition to your play-style choice in order to benefit your time isn't exactly altruistic either. If the rest of your group doesn't have an issue with it you'll just have to deal or leave. If they feel the same, by all means kick the player in question.
    Blablablah it doesn't matter if it's designed for it or not. It is unquestionably a sign of maximizing your potential to dps if you have time to do so. So tired of having this conversation with lazy healers over and over.

    If you want to be suboptimal thats fine, but lets stop pretending you can pull the "that's not my job" (When have you ever heard this from a productive person in real life - oh wait that's right, never.) card and acting like you're the best.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 06-29-2015 at 04:33 PM.

  6. #76
    Player Hypie's Avatar
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    Stygia Ashenscale
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightTundra View Post
    Unfortunately in high-end content, people are going to force things on you that you may not want to do. I merely suggested that if the end-game community, in correlation with the mechanics of a healer in FFXIV, is taking its toll on your amount of "fun" with the game, I recommend playing something else.

    My previous post did not contain sarcasm if you were wondering.
    Fortunately they won't. If they say i have to dps i say no. There is no discussion for me. So i don't need to play another game...if they kick me *shrug* you always have these elitist snobs. Lucky for me the game is full with another at least another 2 Million Players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post

    If you want to be suboptimal thats fine, but lets stop pretending you can pull the "that's not my job" (When have you ever heard this from a productive person in real life - oh wait that's right, never.) card and acting like you're the best.
    I pull that card so often (because its true) that i typed,plotted and pinned it to my Workplace. We are not lazy, we are not suboptimal playing. We play as how its written down in the Job Description. And dare you to log to FFXIV Wiki and edit dpsing in it! *just joking*

    Dpsing on Tanks is a whole other Matter we can do that without the need to change much. Healers on the other Hands have to change into Cleric Stance, gather Acc on Gear...
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    Last edited by Hypie; 06-29-2015 at 09:01 PM.

  7. #77
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Blablablah it doesn't matter if it's designed for it or not. It is unquestionably a sign of maximizing your potential to dps if you have time to do so. So tired of having this conversation with lazy healers over and over.

    If you want to be suboptimal thats fine, but lets stop pretending you can pull the "that's not my job" (When have you ever heard this from a productive person in real life - oh wait that's right, never.) card and acting like you're the best.
    It isn't a healers responsibility within the group to maximize their dps. If you want your healer to dps then group with a healer that chooses that playstyle. It isn't that hard to do.
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  8. #78
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    You guys are ridiculous, I swear.

    "It isn't my responsibility", "it isn't my job", "content isn't designed around me DPSing", "DEVs didn't intend me to play in such way".

    lol.

    Watch, it's this simple. You have a job with 50 spells. You are only using 30. You are not optimal. Go apply for blue garter or lucrezia and put in your CV that as a healer, you don't like DPSing but that you are still optimal.

    Your problem is that you take the words "you are not being optimal" as a personal insult to your "playstyle" rather than objective feedback. Optimal doesn't always match with what you like guys (*I don't like DPSing so I only heal but I'm still optimal* -nope it doesn't work that way-).

    But at this point, I feel that you just want to hear what you want to hear:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__Thtao6vc
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  9. #79
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    ckc22's Avatar
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
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    Then it sounds like you're just as lazy in real life as you are in game. I'm sure you pretend to be the most effective person there too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    You guys are ridiculous, I swear.

    "It isn't my responsibility", "it isn't my job", "content isn't designed around me DPSing", "DEVs didn't intend me to play in such way".

    lol.

    Watch, it's this simple. You have a job with 50 spells. You are only using 30. You are not optimal. Go apply for blue garter or lucrezia and put in your CV that as a healer, you don't like DPSing but that you are still optimal.

    Your problem is that you take the words "you are not being optimal" as a personal insult to your "playstyle" rather than objective feedback. Optimal doesn't always match with what you like guys (*I don't like DPSing so I only heal but I'm still optimal* -nope it doesn't work that way-).
    Amen.
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  10. #80
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    Naruke's Avatar
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    Jade Stonelili
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    Wow its so obvious that....man they don't want you to dps. End of Story. They said that in several Interviews that they design Raids without Healer DPS. So stop doing something your not supposed to do and heal. If you want to DPS, play one.

    And don't draw this "but a good player will dps because he helps the raid with that" card on me. Yoshi said they don't want you to DPS in Heavensward in some Interviews too and thats why they lowered the Acc on Purpose. So whatever YOU want it's designed that way.
    So tell me why they added Assize that healer potency is really low.. Aero III, Stone III and DPS Skills on SCH too? I dont think they added just to do 50-60. If Square do something is always for a reason. Adding DPS Skills on Healer means we have to use them propely

    And tell me why statics want that Warriors (a Tank Job) have to do at least 500 DPS (on Final Coil) and now Dark Knights are involved more for DPS than Tanking?
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