Please, no more dungeons to progress the main story

[AzakaTonnerre]

So how exactly would it harm you if there were solo options for people who are helping to fund all of your hand-holding togetherness content? I don't think it would hurt you one bit! There are many, many reasons why people who don't like instances or raids still enjoy this game.

Those people completing all of that "hand-holding togetherness content" are funding 99% of the game. The 1% of people who want to solo that stuff do not fund enough of the game to create separate versions of the few dungeons the game asks you to complete with, god forbid, others in a MMO.

[VraeliaValkyria]

Please for the love of God, SE Team..do NOT listen to the OP! I look forward to dungeons in Main story line. They are like the best of the best, besides content and the actual story. This person needs not to sway your thinking to theirs. lol

Also, I am not a very smart individual. I am openly admitting that. But, if I can learn T9 fast like and know its mechanics [in my opinion anyways] (when it was the hardest fight in the game before Expansion) anyone..I mean ANYONE can clear anything. lol

These dungeons in the story line is nothing compared to the content you will be faced with. It is best to learn those dungeons before you progress. Sorry to say.

[Alistaire]

Threads like these are why we need a dislike button, so people can come in here and quietly say "nope" rather than what happens in a lot of these threads, pointless bickering about ideas that we could easily find out 99% of people disagree with if we had a dislike button.

[Asami_Yukimura]

I am sorry but I felt the need to post this video below. Not even words can describe your logic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDTPPM9qsc

SE you are doing a fantastic job. Just fix some of the balancing issues like MCH for example it does 25% less dps than bard and it needs a buff. I am sure it will please gun enthusiast out there ^^. I am not sure about other classes.

[Delorean]

Coming back to FFXIV after a long break, I've experienced two days of frustration as I've tried progressing the main story line.

I've had to do snowcloak, keeper of the lake, and chrysalis. My main complaints are these

#1 no, you don't

i never do and i haven't since wrath of the lich king ended. if it's a group thing i will put in the effort when it matters, but usually i don't read up on a damn thing. especially not for trivial content.

#2 get a thicker skin

#3 see #2

#4 being dps does not absolve you of a role of responsibility, despite popular belief and game design being lenient with mediocrity in the role of DPS - a great dps player will always be noticed and so will a subpar one.

Admittedly it can be frustrating dealing with other players sometimes, but if you want to play a game by yourself there are other games that are not MMOs.

[Maikal]

There's not a terribly nice way to convey this, so I'll be blunt. If the normal versions of this game's dungeons are too difficult for you, you're simply playing the wrong game. Even extremely easy MMOs, such as this one, require some very basic level of party content. I might suggest one of Final Fantasy's many single player offerings. You can progress through them at your own pace and don't have to worry about criticism.

That being said, I detect a faint whiff of troll in the air.

Edit: After looking back at some previous posts, I realize the topic creator isn't at all trolling. Apologies.

[Atoli]

why not just have a solo version of these instances?

Because this is a MMORPG, not a single player FF title. Changing the game to accomodate people who absolutely refuse to treat the game for what it is (NOT a solo game) goes against the very principle FFXIV was created with.

[DreadRabbit]

Because this is a MMORPG, not a single player FF title.

I agree. As a consumer you should research what it is you're buying. If you don't like the major aspect of a product you shouldn't purchase or play it, rather than expect the producer to change everything just to fit you. I do find it very baffling at how many people come into this game in particular expecting it to be a single player game with other people playing at the same time. I imagine it has to be because it's FF, but I haven't ran into any other MMO with this big of a "solo-play" crowd. (I also partially blame certain anime trends, but that's neither here nor there).

However, my post was indicating that at least what I've seen in HW so far, they're already trying to accommodate these players by introducing the solo duties. Which are actually pretty unique and decently done so far. So the idea itself isn't very far fetched. If they did listen to these people, I'd rather there be a playable instance akin to that than the outright skip the person I was responding to was suggesting. If they're not even willing to play that then they shouldn't be playing a video game, they should be watching a movie.

Edit: screw this character limit. seriously.

[Wavaryen]

Know what op? I agree with you.

Dungeons should be a option for players who want to do them. Some players enjoy not doing dungeons, Content should not force you to group with others, and from some of the groups I had. I don't blame people for it. Mind you, I am lucky to have the bs ls ever that will help, and is understanding. For the people who have trouble finding it. I feel bad for them.


My wife and I have never been one to do dungeons, as we enjoy story elements and doing things our own pace. When a MMO forces you to advance the story to unlock content...ya.

This whole idea that MMORPGS is about grouping is silly.

[Reinha]

It would take a lot of time and effort (that could be spent on other things) to redo and redesign all the content for solo play. And for what? 1% of players who aren't the target audience? If you can't cope with a few compulsory, easy dungeons, then no, I don't think it's the game for you. Play if you want, but expecting the devs to divert their time from new content to rehash old stuff for solo play is ridiculous. EVERYTHING would have to be retuned and changed.

I agree. Like I said in another thread, this game is obviously designed from the ground up for people who like both group play and solo play. If someone dislikes one of those two, they are not in the target audience. Asking a game company to suddenly change their game design to suit a different audience is ridiculous. People can always look around for other games if they feel this one doesn't offer them the experience they want. Or if they like it here then they should accept that the game isn't 100% custom made to their liking.

That makes no sense. It is not like people want the element to be removed aka dungeons. It is that forcing people to do them advance is not very smart thing to do in a mmo. Options and play styles are key to a happy community.

This game takes many steps forward, but it also takes a ton back when it comes to combat/force grouping and lack of PTR.

Of course I know they don't want it to be removed. Thinking so would be very black and white.
1) Nobody is being forced to do anything here. We're all consenting adults/adolescents (I hope).
2) There's nothing wrong with people liking "backwards"/oldschool gaming or with game companies designing games for that audience. What you are saying is that attunements are not smart game design and I'd like you to prove your claim. "Options" or "freedom of choice" both refer to a more sandbox style of game design, where a player can pick their battles and create their own adventure. Are you saying that all games should be designed that way, when this game's growing playerbase clearly shows that there is demand for gating-heavy games? That, in my opinion, makes no sense.