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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    why not just have a solo version of these instances?
    Because this is a MMORPG, not a single player FF title. Changing the game to accomodate people who absolutely refuse to treat the game for what it is (NOT a solo game) goes against the very principle FFXIV was created with.
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    Evy Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Because this is a MMORPG, not a single player FF title.
    I agree. As a consumer you should research what it is you're buying. If you don't like the major aspect of a product you shouldn't purchase or play it, rather than expect the producer to change everything just to fit you. I do find it very baffling at how many people come into this game in particular expecting it to be a single player game with other people playing at the same time. I imagine it has to be because it's FF, but I haven't ran into any other MMO with this big of a "solo-play" crowd. (I also partially blame certain anime trends, but that's neither here nor there).

    However, my post was indicating that at least what I've seen in HW so far, they're already trying to accommodate these players by introducing the solo duties. Which are actually pretty unique and decently done so far. So the idea itself isn't very far fetched. If they did listen to these people, I'd rather there be a playable instance akin to that than the outright skip the person I was responding to was suggesting. If they're not even willing to play that then they shouldn't be playing a video game, they should be watching a movie.

    Edit: screw this character limit. seriously.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Know what op? I agree with you.

    Dungeons should be a option for players who want to do them. Some players enjoy not doing dungeons, Content should not force you to group with others, and from some of the groups I had. I don't blame people for it. Mind you, I am lucky to have the bs ls ever that will help, and is understanding. For the people who have trouble finding it. I feel bad for them.


    My wife and I have never been one to do dungeons, as we enjoy story elements and doing things our own pace. When a MMO forces you to advance the story to unlock content...ya.

    This whole idea that MMORPGS is about grouping is silly.
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    Eilis Tozet
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    Evy said above, it may be because this is an FF title, there are a lot more people who would rather be independent from group content.

    I'm one of those people too.

    1) I am a Square, Squaresoft, Squee fangirl first, last and always. I play XIV because it's FF, not because it's an MMO. I love FF content. I only ever buy a new version of Playstation, when a new FF title requires it for a new FF release.

    2) I cannot STAND having to depend on others; and; I can't stand putting others in a position to depend on me. You take care of yourself, I take care of myself; the Devil take the hind-most (yes, this is me in Reality too).

    It took me almost 2 years to finish the 2.0 + content through to Chrysalis because I hate group dungeoning. But. I love FF. So I soldiered on and finished, step by wincing Steps.

    Other MMO don't make you do this. SWTOR famously. You can finish every single story quest line with just your NPC companion. Need not involve others.

    But... I am not demanding a change. This game is what it is, it's too late to go back; I will just progress slowly... roadblock at the required cooperative play for a bit... and move on.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
    Aww, wish you were on my server - I'd invite you to come not enjoy it with me ! My friend I play with understands how I feel and is very patient with me - makes a big difference, but still, I would just rather not have to do it.

    We run something and she's all "that was FUN" and I am like, "I'm so glad it's over "
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orspeth View Post
    Aww, wish you were on my server - I'd invite you to come not enjoy it with me ! My friend I play with understands how I feel and is very patient with me - makes a big difference, but still, I would just rather not have to do it.

    We run something and she's all "that was FUN" and I am like, "I'm so glad it's over "
    Yup, just doing one dungeon drains me to the point I don't even want to keep playing. oh wells, pushing on through it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Yup, just doing one dungeon drains me to the point I don't even want to keep playing. oh wells, pushing on through it lol.
    i will resay what was said, it's not a solo game, if you want a solo experience into a mmorpg, you are totally missing the point of this sort of game. the Final Fantasy game franchise was always based on a group model, like said before by other than me, the only difference it's you don't control all the party member.

    if you don't like dungeon, grouping,.... why are you playing mmorpg??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
    Because it's an MMO?. No matter how you look at it, it is a massive multiplayer online game. This game will never ever be a single player game ever.
    Sure it'd be nice to have, but when you signed up to an MMO you should have known exactly what you were getting into, so why complain?.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Because it's an MMO?. No matter how you look at it, it is a massive multiplayer online game. This game will never ever be a single player game ever.
    Sure it'd be nice to have, but when you signed up to an MMO you should have known exactly what you were getting into, so why complain?.
    A mmo does not mean force grouping.

    It is a virtual world with rpg elements. Raiding, Dungeons, are all elements of that world, but force to do it because it is a mmo is false, and never understood that line of thought. There are ways to work with others without having to group through crafting and market.

    That is just my two cents, as I am looking at is through eyes of a mud player, and watching the advancement of the rpg.
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