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  1. #161
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    Soliz0816's Avatar
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    Mahrukh Itri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Is it me or does MCH not really get any love? I already see a lot of AST and DRK at 60 and fully geared, but I have yet to see MCH...it makes me want to play it lol
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  2. #162
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    MrSmiley's Avatar
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliz0816 View Post
    Is it me or does MCH not really get any love? I already see a lot of AST and DRK at 60 and fully geared, but I have yet to see MCH...it makes me want to play it lol
    We are very high maintenance for low reward right now, what is needed is either gear, or se to fix us >_> that's probably why not many.
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  3. #163
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    We are very high maintenance for low reward right now, what is needed is either gear, or se to fix us >_> that's probably why not many.
    Yup. But i'm having so much fun with the job tho.
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  4. #164
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    LittleArrow's Avatar
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    Character
    Little Sprinkles
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    This job has tons of potential. I love how I feel like a cross between a mnk / blm / brd. Unfortunately, there are some real issues plaguing this class atm. Just like MrSmiley stated, the effort put into this class does not reflect in the outcome.

    I've made a post on the official forums here discussing my thoughts and many others regard MCH. If you're interested, it could be a good read while your taking a snack break

    Just a quick disclaimer: I share my thoughts in that post as well as many others. There is some testing done that I post from other users.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ious-attention
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  5. #165
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    MelvinK's Avatar
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    Character
    Ciel Wintermere
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Wild fire cooldown of 90 sec is not playing nicely with reload 60s and quick reload 30s. In this case, is it more DPS to delay reload (use wildfire on cooldown) or wildfire (use reload on cooldown)
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  6. #166
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliz0816 View Post
    Is it me or does MCH not really get any love? I already see a lot of AST and DRK at 60 and fully geared, but I have yet to see MCH...it makes me want to play it lol
    I am a "fully" geared MCN (missing ravana weapon). I enjoy that there is not many of us yet, cause when those buffs come, the bangwagon will come with it.
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  7. #167
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    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I already know all mch are gonna be shunned from raiding come alex.

    I feel bad for groups when farming law cause I can barely bring anything to the plate other then a non dead dps.

    I just need to hear will this get fixed in time for alex if not i'll spend the next two weeks grinding out my nin or hell a DARK DPS Cause you know that is actually a thing
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  8. #168
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    Zorzi's Avatar
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    Xania Zorzi
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MelvinK View Post
    Wild fire cooldown of 90 sec is not playing nicely with reload 60s and quick reload 30s. In this case, is it more DPS to delay reload (use wildfire on cooldown) or wildfire (use reload on cooldown)
    I've been wondering this too. I've been using Reload when it comes up and delaying Wildfire simply because it's more fun to use Reload whenever possible, but seeing how much damage comes from Wildfire I would guess it's best to delay Reload instead.
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  9. #169
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    MiruWest's Avatar
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    I already know all mch are gonna be shunned from raiding come alex.

    I feel bad for groups when farming law cause I can barely bring anything to the plate other then a non dead dps.

    I just need to hear will this get fixed in time for alex if not i'll spend the next two weeks grinding out my nin or hell a DARK DPS Cause you know that is actually a thing
    I geared out my MCH enough now so Im going to shelf him til the dusk settles. I dont feel like bandwagoning off the job but I would rather play a job that people want and know is good rather than one that COULD be good but everyone does it better.

    SMN lvl 55 so far
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  10. #170
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    Cascadi's Avatar
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorzi View Post
    I've been wondering this too. I've been using Reload when it comes up and delaying Wildfire simply because it's more fun to use Reload whenever possible, but seeing how much damage comes from Wildfire I would guess it's best to delay Reload instead.
    Hey, I modified the sim to run these two options for 270s each and here are the results with 1000 simulations:

    Option 1: Delay all by 30s buffs so it lines up with Reload @ 120s
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    Option 2: Don't delay Reload or buffs and use them whenever they are up
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    Option 3: Delay Reload by 30s to line up with 90s buffs
    70265 avg

    So surprisingly, in theory, it's actually worth delaying your buffs (Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire) to line it up with Hypercharge + Reload, not what was expected at all. I also included delaying Raging Strikes by 240s instead of 180s, and it's also an increase of DPS. However, these conditions are assuming that you have 100% uptime on the enemies, and the buffs are all popped together, so to decide between Option 1 and Option 2 depends on the fight.

    Inflated simulation numbers were throwing it off, the difference between Option 1 and 2 are minimal.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-25-2015 at 04:56 PM. Reason: inflated simulation numbers fixed

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