Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Cascadi]

I've been wondering this too. I've been using Reload when it comes up and delaying Wildfire simply because it's more fun to use Reload whenever possible, but seeing how much damage comes from Wildfire I would guess it's best to delay Reload instead.

Hey, I modified the sim to run these two options for 270s each and here are the results with 1000 simulations:

Option 1: Delay all by 30s buffs so it lines up with Reload @ 120s
70591 avg

Option 2: Don't delay Reload or buffs and use them whenever they are up
70811 avg

Option 3: Delay Reload by 30s to line up with 90s buffs
70265 avg

So surprisingly, in theory, it's actually worth delaying your buffs (Hawk's Eye + Blood for Blood + Wildfire + Rapid Fire) to line it up with Hypercharge + Reload, not what was expected at all. I also included delaying Raging Strikes by 240s instead of 180s, and it's also an increase of DPS. However, these conditions are assuming that you have 100% uptime on the enemies, and the buffs are all popped together, so to decide between Option 1 and Option 2 depends on the fight.

Inflated simulation numbers were throwing it off, the difference between Option 1 and 2 are minimal.

[MelvinK]

Hey, I modified the sim to run these two options for 270s each and here are the results:

Option 1: Delay all by 30s buffs so it lines up with Reload @ 120s
237248 avg

Option 2: Don't delay Reload or buffs and use them whenever they are up
234477 avg

Option 3: Delay Reload by 30s to line up with 90s buffs
193184 avg

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Hi OP,
it looks to me that option 1 and option 2 result in very similar in term of DPS then i dont think i will bother with option 1 since lining up cooldowns require effort and planning for that minuscule DPS gain. Might as well spend my effort on tracking procs. Isn't this a more practical approach? Are you able to determine how much is the contribution of cooldown DPS separately from the normal rotation 1-2-3 in term of overall DPS. With this, probably we can see if it is sensible to forgo option 1 such that effort spend on perfect response to procs is more of a DPS gain than DPS lose for option 2.

[Cascadi]

Hi OP,
it looks to me that option 1 and option 2 result in very similar in term of DPS then i dont think i will bother with option 1 since lining up cooldowns require effort and planning for that minuscule DPS gain. Might as well spend my effort on tracking procs. Isn't this a more practical approach? Are you able to determine how much is the contribution of cooldown DPS separately from the normal rotation 1-2-3 in term of overall DPS. With this, probably we can see if it is sensible to forgo option 1 such that effort spend on perfect response to procs is more of a DPS gain than DPS lose for option 2.

Yeah, Option 2 is indeed more practical. As for determining how much of a contribution buffed damage does vs the normal rotation, here it is below based off of 1000 simulations:

Buffed Potency (22s)
25s: 7748

Unbuffed Potency (68s)
65s: 15513

Total Potency (90s)
90s: 23261

So, your buffed burst of skills makes up roughly 33% of your damage and the regular 1-2-3 rotation makes up 67% of your damage.

[Shhikasan]

I already know all mch are gonna be shunned from raiding come alex.

I feel bad for groups when farming law cause I can barely bring anything to the plate other then a non dead dps.

I just need to hear will this get fixed in time for alex if not i'll spend the next two weeks grinding out my nin or hell a DARK DPS Cause you know that is actually a thing

[MiruWest]

I already know all mch are gonna be shunned from raiding come alex.

I feel bad for groups when farming law cause I can barely bring anything to the plate other then a non dead dps.

I just need to hear will this get fixed in time for alex if not i'll spend the next two weeks grinding out my nin or hell a DARK DPS Cause you know that is actually a thing

I geared out my MCH enough now so Im going to shelf him til the dusk settles. I dont feel like bandwagoning off the job but I would rather play a job that people want and know is good rather than one that COULD be good but everyone does it better.

SMN lvl 55 so far

[Shhikasan]

I geared out my MCH enough now so Im going to shelf him til the dusk settles. I dont feel like bandwagoning off the job but I would rather play a job that people want and know is good rather than one that COULD be good but everyone does it better.

SMN lvl 55 so far

I am all leveled out and getting another dps to 60 thru pure grind of dungeons and fates is not my idea for fun for the next few weeks. I'll try to muster through dungeons and get my 170 gear and hunts for upgrades.
I feel heavy regret leveling mch but little hope for balance before alex or anytime soon if history is doomed to repeat itself. it doesn't matter Sqaure got my money they can sit back while they wait for stuff to unlock and such.

I just want some info as if the brd and mch are being look into. I mean they already responded to monks chakra sound.

[MelvinK]

Thanks OP for your effort. Appreciated it.

[Ephier]

Was looking over the opener posted,

Pull

-Dexterity Potion
-Hawk's Eye
Hot Shot
-Blood for Blood
-Hypercharge
Lead Shot
-Wildfire
-Rapid Fire
-Gauss Barrel (on)
Split Shot
-Ricochet
-Gauss Round
Slug Shot
-Reassemble
Clean Shot
-Gauss Barrel (off)
-Blank
-Head Graze
Split Shot

Is there any reason you do not use blank and head graze before you turn off gauss barrel?

i.e

Pull

-Dexterity Potion
-Hawk's Eye
Hot Shot
-Blood for Blood
-Hypercharge
Lead Shot
-Wildfire
-Rapid Fire
-Gauss Barrel (on)
Split Shot
-Ricochet
-Gauss Round
Slug Shot
-Reassemble
Clean Shot
-Blank
-Head Graze
-Gauss Barrel (off)*
Split Shot

[Whyabadi]

Thank you for the guide. Lots of useful information here.
How much of a dps loss do you reckon it will be to completely drop Gauss Barrel, Gauss Round, and Ricochet?
I feel the additional dps (if any) doesn't justify the increase in complexity or the loss of mobility, whether during the opener or if full-timing Gauss Barrel.

[Shhikasan]

Thank you for the guide. Lots of useful information here.
How much of a dps loss do you reckon it will be to completely drop Gauss Barrel, Gauss Round, and Ricochet?
I feel the additional dps (if any) doesn't justify the increase in complexity or the loss of mobility, whether during the opener or if full-timing Gauss Barrel.

a lot of dps lost you should only use gauss barrel and its two spells during the wildfire burst outside of that and keeping it on will reduce your dps