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  1. #141
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    MelvinK's Avatar
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    Ciel Wintermere
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Although i dont have a lvl60 MCN, i can tell from the abilities and rotation that MCN gain significant dps from wildfire/cooldowns stacking. The shorter the fight is, the more dominant is this "opening" dps. So I'd say the DPS is sort of "inflated". I'd actually be more interested with average DPS past 6-10 min to reflect a proper raid encounter length.
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    Last edited by MelvinK; 06-24-2015 at 04:15 PM.

  2. #142
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    SasakiNori's Avatar
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    Lanaya Valerian
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MelvinK View Post
    Although i dont have a lvl60 MCN, i can tell from the abilities and rotation that MCN gain significant dps from wildfire/cooldowns stacking. The shorter the fight is, the more dominant is this "opening" dps. So I'd say the DPS is sort of "inflated". I'd actually be more interested with average DPS past 6-10 min to reflect a proper raid encounter length.
    Bard works the same way though.


    I'd be curious to see how much of a % loss it is if you have your turret sing in comparision to bards -15% on songs.
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  3. #143
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    Ciel Wintermere
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    Double posted
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  4. #144
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    Katsu Bahn
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 60
    I've load some parse with the hypercharge rotation, the DPS loss seems to be a bit higher (~17%), and don't forget that the bard have the FOE with no DPS loss and up DPS of mage/sumn/...

    Also i've some things that bother me "again". The first one is "what type of damage we do" ? And the second one is on the opener you use ricochet, i've hear that ricochet is on one targe 400 potency i've not the skill yet so i don't know if it does 1 hit or 4 hit, if it's really that can it's be good to use reassemble on the ricochet ?
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  5. #145
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SasakiNori View Post
    Bard works the same way though.


    I'd be curious to see how much of a % loss it is if you have your turret sing in comparision to bards -15% on songs.
    As I'm understand it right now, the turret makes up about 15% of your total dps (which is why mch below level 40 kind of suffers), so promoting it cuts about that much from your dps since the turret won't be contributing anymore.
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  6. #146
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Not sure if it's just me but does anyone else feel like their damage is low? I have tried gauss barrel, no gauss, and rapid fire dancing. I just do not feel like my numbers are there. Especially compared to warriors.
    Same here, i still have no idea of what to do after my open.
    What are you guys doing? 1-2-1-3-2-1 plus oGCD?

    Also, my best crit was a 1.8k (lvl55 + full buffs+pot) Clean Shot. Does anyone know if Wildfire can crit?
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    Last edited by Elizabeth; 06-24-2015 at 08:50 PM.

  7. #147
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Same here, i still have no idea of what to do after my open.
    What are you guys doing? 1-2-1-3-2-1 plus GCD?
    Once you blow all your cooldowns its pretty simple as waiting for procs and using them. My main concern is the damage tanks are putting out being so close to our damage if not higher (WAR is disgusting right now) I am not sure if we need a buff or they need a nerf.
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  8. #148
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Once you blow all your cooldowns its pretty simple as waiting for procs and using them. My main concern is the damage tanks are putting out being so close to our damage if not higher (WAR is disgusting right now) I am not sure if we need a buff or they need a nerf.
    Same here. But especially on that "after the open" phase, i feel so damn weak waiting for procs. Maybe we need a buff.
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  9. #149
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    Varsing Herleifr
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksyd View Post
    I've load some parse with the hypercharge rotation, the DPS loss seems to be a bit higher (~17%), and don't forget that the bard have the FOE with no DPS loss and up DPS of mage/sumn/...

    Also i've some things that bother me "again". The first one is "what type of damage we do" ? And the second one is on the opener you use ricochet, i've hear that ricochet is on one targe 400 potency i've not the skill yet so i don't know if it does 1 hit or 4 hit, if it's really that can it's be good to use reassemble on the ricochet ?
    Our damage type is piercing. Ricochet hits twice, once for 100 potency and then a second time for 300, split on targets. If one target, it hits twice for 100 + 300 on the target. Reassemble will not work due to the skill not being a weapon skill. Hope it helps
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  10. #150
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    SasakiNori's Avatar
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    Lanaya Valerian
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HairyRoger View Post
    Our damage type is piercing. Ricochet hits twice, once for 100 potency and then a second time for 300, split on targets. If one target, it hits twice for 100 + 300 on the target. Reassemble will not work due to the skill not being a weapon skill. Hope it helps
    Do both hits crit together or individually? (Natural crits)
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