Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Havenchild]

Assuming you can use AF stacks inside of DWS, wouldn't this be a good opener ?

Pre pull: Shadowflare+Spur+Rouse

Bio 2 as Tank is pulling > Miasmi > Bio > Enkindle > R2 > Fester > R2 > Painflare > AF+DWS> RS+Pot > Tri-disaster > Fester > Miasmi 2 > SC > Shadowflare+Contagion > R3x2 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare.

That way, you will get fully buffed DoTs(DWS 10% Increase + Pot + RS + Contagion).

You need to burn 3 Aetherflow stacks to get into DWT. So basically you would need to use ED somewhere before because the other two would be on CD.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually not worth waiting with Raging + Pot. You basically have to wait, 5-6 GCDS which is about... 5 ticks? without buffed Dots on top of Potency loss from Fester, Painflare and ED outside of Raging and Pot.

[OneWingedSora]

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Oh my bad, ED is probably between Fester/painflare(Edited my OP). And I don't really understand your second statement. You will still get to use Festerx2+Deathflare with RS+Pot which would be better than using RS+Pot on Painflare+Fester+ED.

[Havenchild]

Oh my bad, ED is probably between Fester/painflare(Edited my OP). And I don't really understand your second statement. You will still get to use Festerx2+Deathflare with RS+Pot which would be better than using RS+Pot on Painflare+Fester+ED.

Well the second set of AF stacks will be buffed, but thats going to happen regardless?

Kinda like uh forgo the buffs on the initial skills pre DWT, to super buff everything else in DWT but...

Using one set of buffs here and then having the second set of buffs on the later half, will probably even out the same way. Obviously would have to be tested if its worth waiting that long. We also don't know if you can be in DWT when you use AF.

Wouldn't it be better to open with Tri-Disaster instead of applying all DoT's by themselves?

That depends on if you can better take advantage of overlapping buffs at the end of the opener.

[OneWingedSora]

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Except this way, your Deathflare will be buffed with Pot+RS and your contagion'd DoTs will be buffed with the 10% from DWS. This is of course, assuming you can be in DWT while using AF.

[Havenchild]

Except this way, your Deathflare will be buffed with Pot+RS and your contagion'd DoTs will be buffed with the 10% from DWS. This is of course, assuming you can be in DWT while using AF.

You can still have a buffed Deathflare in the opening, now... Contagion'd DoTs....why cant you just use Tri - D when DWS is up to clip all the current DoTs and then Contagion later? Clipping these Dots doesn't hurt you because that is a free oGCD to reapply no? Or am I looking at this wrong?

Idk somehow I don't think that 10% from DWT is gonna be that decisive of a boost to wait out Raging Strikes and Pot usage from all the skills prior to going into DWT although I guess that just needs to be tested anyway.

EDIT: If anything, I think you might actually shift the Pot usage, to use Tri - D later when DWT comes up but before Raging Strikes falls off.

[OneWingedSora]

You can still have a buffed Deathflare in the opening, now... Contagion'd DoTs....why cant you just use Tri - D when DWS is up to clip all the current DoTs and then Contagion later? Clipping these Dots doesn't hurt you because that is a free oGCD to reapply no? Or am I looking at this wrong?

Idk somehow I don't think that 10% from DWT is gonna be that decisive of a boost to wait out Raging Strikes and Pot usage from all the skills prior to going into DWT.

How can I have a buffed Deathflare in the opening ? If you used RS+Int pre pull, your deathflare won't be buffed by either unless you use it as soon as you enter DWS, which is obviously not ideal since you will be missing out on the 10% damage increase+ Ruin 3s. And while clipping the DoTs can work, I find that having buffed Ruin 3s+2x Festers + Deathflare is better than having buffed Fester+ED+Painflare.

[Havenchild]

How can I have a buffed Deathflare in the opening ? If you used RS+Int pre pull, your deathflare won't be buffed by either unless you use it as soon as you enter DWS, which is obviously not ideal since you will be missing out on the 10% damage increase+ Ruin 3s. And while clipping the DoTs can work, I find that having buffed Ruin 3s+2x Festers + Deathflare is better than having buffed Fester+ED+Painflare.

The opening I was thinking of is uh..

Shadowflare before pull -> Raging -> Ruin I -> Ruin II -> Pot-> Tri - D -> (assuming all Dots apply immediately) -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Pain Flare (possibly used with Fester in one GCD if you are pushing the GCD with pot + Tri -D) -> Ruin II -> ED -> DWT + AF -> Ruin III -> Ruin III -> Swift Shadow -> (Fester -> DeathFlare ) Pot and raging fall off after Deathflare.

Something like that.