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    Dervy Yakimi
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    You can't "scale" stats like that. The 3.0 Slummoner functions completely differently than the 2.0 Summoner.

    Stat weights are calculated based on their rotational impact. They're never scaled equally across all Jobs.

    But yes, MD will always weigh less on DoMs as their magic damage is high and the original Stat-Weight metmethodology adds the impact of AA_DMG with WD.

    DoMs don't use their AAs.
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    Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

    And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.
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    Grimmjow Jaggerjaques
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

    And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.
    And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm08 View Post
    And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.
    Because I am assuming more groups will start clearing A3S next week. And having the 210 chest + 210 ring will be better than having 200 weapon for A4S.
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    You make a very large assumption there. The 2 best groups in the world only cleared it because they smashed their faces against it almost non-stop, and very little information about said fight is currently available. On top of that, how do you guarantee that you get the upgrade material over another dps? There are many many other things to consider besides strict numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    You can't "scale" stats like that.
    Ah ok that makes sense. Auto attacks don't count for us casters. Although did you use a simulator or just raw data to get your stat weight? I still want secondary stats approximation as INT is increasing. This will really help. Thanks for passing by!

    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

    And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.
    You will have to buy the weapon eventually, you can delay it now but you will buy it anyway. The INT difference is not that huge with the weapon. The body/ring will provide a nice boost for S3 if you plan on downing it this week or next week but then it's almost the same with every other piece of gear so the weapon will be the next best thing to get.
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    Sort of. It's half a Simulator, half a DPS model and Excel based. And I need Raw Data to get a working Summoner Damage Model up.
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    I wonder if SMN will have different weights per pet.

    Has anyone measured the difference between Ifrit and Garuda DPS 3.0?

    Does spd effect Contagion?
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    I like how nobody even considered the 180 crafted chest. It's wte really but I can see that Spell Speed is an awful stat for SMN like it's always been.

    To BLM, the weapon gives an absurd about of Spell Speed that you need lol
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    has anyone figured out the acc cap for as3? i went the chest and ring route (and a 210 belt drop) and it dropped me to 495 >_>
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