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  1. #1591
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    so i saw some screenshot and it seems one of the skill that originally had 500 potency is now only 330.
    is that a nerf or are we still getting buffed overall that it doesnt matter that much?
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    The one thing we have to consider, will greased lightning effect DoTs, as it effects our GCDs? Like I said, no point in too much speculation at the moment, since we will briefly find out... But that would certainly be something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eardstapa View Post
    The one thing we have to consider, will greased lightning effect DoTs, as it effects our GCDs? Like I said, no point in too much speculation at the moment, since we will briefly find out... But that would certainly be something.
    doesn't gl already affect dots and everything that has a potency?
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  4. #1594
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokee View Post
    doesn't gl already affect dots and everything that has a potency?
    Think he means the attack speed portion of GL3 affecting the DoT damage output. GL3 also has a damage up portion which already currently affects our DoT's. It's probably more to do with the whole skill speed affecting DoT output bit, not a potency increase.
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  5. #1595
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    Quote Originally Posted by juniglee View Post
    Think he means the attack speed portion of GL3 affecting the DoT damage output. GL3 also has a damage up portion which already currently affects our DoT's. It's probably more to do with the whole skill speed affecting DoT output bit, not a potency increase.
    sorry, my bad. i forgot the attack speed part of it.
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  6. #1596
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    Nya Nyaoei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokee View Post
    doesn't gl already affect dots and everything that has a potency?
    I'm pretty fresh to this but it looks that skillspeed is going a different route and will affect the ticks on the DoT damage.

    Regardless of your SS stat or greased lightning's "increased attack speed", Demolish and ToD did not tick faster or slower.
    I'm probably wrong, but i think the key is in the wording here.
    Actually, greased lightning's increased attack speed did affect autoattacks and your GCD, but seemingly not your skillspeed stat (unless it was off of paper)... though there would be an equivalent.
    If that's true, then they could have changed that interaction along with what they will be doing with criticals.

    All of this adds only slight complication to the PB opening because there's still only so much you can do in 10 seconds.
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  7. #1597
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    Grease lightning does not effect skill speed. When I say skill speed I mean the actual number under the stat menu. If you had 512 ss it will remain the same number under the effecta of grease lightning 3. It only effects recast timers and gives you a damage buff to all attacks. Now Selene's buff, fey glow effects skill speed the stat. If you had 512 skill speed it will jump to 667 and that will increase dot damagedamage on top of the bonus damage because we have more skill speed.

    Samething with internal release, only effects the rate and not the stat number
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    Last edited by melflomil; 06-18-2015 at 02:27 PM.

  8. #1598
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    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    Grease lightning does not effect skill speed. When I say skill speed I mean the actual number under the stat menu. If you had 512 ss it will remain the same number under the effecta of grease lightning 3. It only effects recast timers and gives you a damage buff to all attacks. Now Selene's buff, fey glow effects skill speed the stat. If you had 512 skill speed it will jump to 667 and that will increase dot damagedamage on top of the bonus damage because we have more skill speed.

    Samething with internal release, only effects the rate and not the stat number
    Thanks for the clarification! I actually only just picked up Monk last week, so I am looking to learn and know more as well XD
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  9. #1599
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    Tornado Kick going from 500 potency to 330 is a huge change... I guess 500 was a little too high on MNK, but 330 is kinda low IMO.

    330 is high for MNK, yes, but Demolish has higher total damage, and you're only gonna use Tornado Kick at very few times in some fights... Not the best attack. Edit: And I know it's oGCD, so it's still nice damage, but you wouldn't use it very often

    Now I wonder how much potency Forbidden Chakra have...

    Can't complain about the nerf on Elixir Field though... 220 potency AoE at 30 sec CD, is strong enough.

    I'm getting a little annoyed though that we are getting a lot of info about abilities for most jobs, but so far no more info on Meditation :/ How is that not the first thing you check when playing MNK at E3....

    EDIT: This is highly speculative, but as someone mentioned in Reddit comments, Purification's tooltip states that you need 5 Chakra stacks, but it doesn't say that you will lose those Chakra stacks... Tornado Kick specifically says that you will lose your GL stacks when used. I know, that doesn't prove anything, but still...
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    Last edited by Craiger; 06-18-2015 at 06:22 PM.

  10. #1600
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    Forseti Judicieux
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    EDIT: This is highly speculative, but as someone mentioned in Reddit comments, Purification's tooltip states that you need 5 Chakra stacks, but it doesn't say that you will lose those Chakra stacks... Tornado Kick specifically says that you will lose your GL stacks when used. I know, that doesn't prove anything, but still...
    Yes, I was just about to post it too. If it's true, that's good although you basically choose whether to keep your 5 stacks and be able to get 300TP every 2 minutes (awesome) or spend the Chakra stacks on Forbidden Chakra.
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