The Monk Temple Reborn

[Chokee]

ok so i know the perfect time to use tornado kick is just before the boss jumps for a long period of time.

but what do you guys think we should do in this situation:

boss soon jumps up but its short enough that we won't lose gl if we use form shift. do we:

1.) use tornado anyway and then meditate some chakra while boss is out of reach
2.) use tornado and then form shift to snap/demo to get gl1, then maybe meditate once
3.) use tornado and then pb back to gl3 + buffs (only if pb is available, if not ignore this choice)
4.) use form shift once or twice to snap/demo the boss when he comes back, preserving our gl3
5.) something else i haven't thought about

[Eardstapa]

As I said earlier, I wasn't getting too much into speculation on the GL thing... Because I know it doesn't directly effect SS, but it does effect GCD. It was merely a thought... Chokee, we'll see when people start hitting 60 and running end game dungeons/content what the best options are.

[Chokee]

As I said earlier, I wasn't getting too much into speculation on the GL thing... Because I know it doesn't directly effect SS, but it does effect GCD. It was merely a thought... Chokee, we'll see when people start hitting 60 and running end game dungeons/content what the best options are.

yeah just putting the question here maybe a theorycrafter can look into it while maint

[Ossom]

If Purification doesn't blow our Chakra stacks, then that means we can wait till we have 700 TP, use Purification and then use Forbidden Chakra, and then we will have probably no TP problems the rest of the fight, between Invigorate and Purification I doubt you would need to use Purification more than once. So that's pretty legit.

I think that if were talking about a Jump that is roughly 2-3 Seconds long, then you would only want to blow Tornado Kick if you just put up your DoTs as reapplying this while not in GL3 seems weak. So if ToD and Demo are up for more than 8 seconds, and the boss is about to jump. Blow GL3 with Tornado Kick and then stance dance until the boss comes back down, if you have time after getting to Couerl Stance then start stacking some more Chakra. If there are fights where the the boss jumps though, TP is usually never gonna be an issue.

[Akashiya]

If Purification doesn't blow our Chakra stacks, then that means we can wait till we have 700 TP, use Purification and then use Forbidden Chakra, and then we will have probably no TP problems the rest of the fight, between Invigorate and Purification I doubt you would need to use Purification more than once. So that's pretty legit.

I think that if were talking about a Jump that is roughly 2-3 Seconds long, then you would only want to blow Tornado Kick if you just put up your DoTs as reapplying this while not in GL3 seems weak. So if ToD and Demo are up for more than 8 seconds, and the boss is about to jump. Blow GL3 with Tornado Kick and then stance dance until the boss comes back down, if you have time after getting to Couerl Stance then start stacking some more Chakra. If there are fights where the the boss jumps though, TP is usually never gonna be an issue.

I'd expect it to eat the stacks if it didn't we get into the pre ninja nerf tp situation that can be even more compound if you have a ninja in the group

[Eardstapa]

According to what a few people have seen, Chakra is a GCD. As such, it would not surprise me if Purification did not eat the stacks, so that we can put both Purification AND Forbidden Chakra on CD, but at the same time I would not be surprised if Purification ate the stacks.

[soulz]

From the looks of it, MNK only add 1 elixir drive to their normal rotation (every 30sec).
I also wonder what is the potency of Forbidden Chakra, since they already bring down Tornado Kick to 330....I kinda doubt it will stay at 400 pot.

If Chakra is a GCD, then i don't think we will use Forbidden Chakra unless boss about to jump for quite some time.
Now i kinda hope Shoulder Tackle changes to what 1.0 used to be....remove the range requirement.

[Craiger]

If Mediation(Chakra) is GCD, then it seems kinda lackluster IMO... Cool abilites, and I'll still play MNK, but it would be like a love hate relationship with downtime... You want it to get chakra stacks and have an advantage over NIN/DRG, but you still want to keep hitting the boss and get that high sustain DPS.

MNK could easily fall behind on DPS in some fights by the looks of things... Have to see how that plays out in the end, but doesn't look good. If Meditation is GCD that is ofc.

EDIT: What I mean is that all jobs are getting increased damage to their rotations in the expansion, but MNK wouldn't get much increase to their core rotation.

[PROBOUND]

Isn't Tornado Kicks Potency (330) Multiplied by GL3? Wouldnt that make it roughly 420-500 potency after GL3 is calculated?

[soulz]

Isn't Tornado Kicks Potency (330) Multiplied by GL3? Wouldnt that make it roughly 400-500 potency after GL3 is calculated?

It also weaker than new demolish full duration now. So the possibility of using Tornado Kick if no PB up is none.