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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
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    I don't care if a duel system is added one way or the other, but the dripping condescension in this post will not win many supporters, and actually will likely fuel detractors.
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  2. #262
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habien View Post
    I don't care if a duel system is added one way or the other, but the dripping condescension in this post will not win many supporters, and actually will likely fuel detractors.
    Sorry, but when you see the same -frankly absurd -arguments (what else can you call "It'll cause lag!"?) being used again and again and again, with the people making them seemingly ignoring every single point thrown counter to their issues, it becomes very hard to be "nice" about it.

    All I'm seeing is a bias against PvP in general (which is a very poor justification against something), a rational argument would pick apart problems with the suggestion, rather than ignoring the suggestion outright. Still waiting for someone to tell me what is wrong with duels with the restrictions suggested (FL/PvP Rank requirement/opt in to ignore requests/etc.), instead people just completely ignore that and tout some cheap Korean MMO as justification against duels. I'm honestly having a hard time even understanding the thought process at play there.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-13-2015 at 03:49 AM.

  3. #263
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    i know this may sound weird, but can we make a poll of whose infavor of 1 vs1. maybe we can have a decent number to show to the development team, we may a chance of this 1 bs 1 coming unto life.

    e.g.
    Who is in favor of 1vs1 duel to be developed as the new feature of PvP? yes or no?
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  4. #264
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    People, it's not that hard to segregate pvp duel-requests or implement a checkbox which disables request to your character.

    Please just let us have it, seriously. We've found numerous great ways of implementing it without affecting the landscape or bothering you or causing harm to the playerbase.
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  5. #265
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    No duels plese, this game already have pvp enough IMO. Not every game ever has to have pvp.
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  6. #266
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    please development team. you have displayed revolution like what director said, its time for an evolution. we see you doing good at pve, its time for us to see how you deal with pvp. you know we have not yet seen enough on pvp. step out of your comfort zone and deal this massive request for pvp duel
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettomendes View Post
    No duels plese, this game already have pvp enough IMO. Not every game ever has to have pvp.
    No, it doesn't "have" to have it, but people want it. I don't participate in the normal PvP, but I'd take part in duels......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
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    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettomendes View Post
    No duels plese, this game already have pvp enough IMO. Not every game ever has to have pvp.
    When has more options ever been a bad thing?

    Duels fill a niche which this game currently doesn't cater to in the slightest; non-queue based PvP. Currently if I want to PvP I have to queue for ages, duels would add the option to just find someone (likely a friend) and duel. That is desperately needed in my opinion, what we have frankly isn't enough because it isn't filling this need in the slightest.

    Honestly, I would much rather they have spent time introducing duels (which as I've detailed, wouldn't even be a massive undertaking) than have them introduce Slaughter (although I've warmed up to 24 player Slaughter somewhat) and I'd certainly rather have duels than the new Frontlines map in 3.0.
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  9. #269
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    Hmm most proper mmos that have PVE and PVP in which PVE servers for dueling can not be taken place inside a city, only outside, in faction based games like wow, the opposing faction can enter but then they have to fight off the whole city which is fun to watch.

    I approve of duelling, no one is asking for duels inside of a city or sanctuary, its great fun. If people do not want to see it, then just stay inside the cities like you already are? Also this game defo has the most over sensitive players, probably why the GMs have started to switch off a lot in game more now and only respond to actual reports like ninja looting.
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  10. #270
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    If people do not want to see it, then just stay inside the cities like you already are?
    Ah, like how Tibia handles it? Cause that way would so work so well here where you routinely have to leave town to take care of a quest objective, unlock a dungeon or heaven forbid, activate a travel point. The problem isn't the idea of dueling, it's the people that would use it be arse hats. So far the only divisive issue is venue. Those who only want it in specific areas, and those who want it everywhere. Currently no genuinely adequate reason has been given as to why it should be everywhere, instead resorting to slanderous, overly defensive arguments. I think the whole argument can come to an agreeable close if this one question can be answered, "Why do you want to involve those that don't want to be?"
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